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MG Midget and Sprite Technical - How heavy is a 1098?

Hi all,
Think I have found myself a 1098 to teach myself to rebuild. its gonna need couriering down to me , so does anybody know the weight of a 1098 with head,flywheel but NOT gear box?

Searched archives ,HBOL & google- seems to be about 120 kg ....does that sound about right?

Also, has anyone got a recommendation for a UK based engine courier firm?
Cheers all
colin
colin frowen

Don't know about the weight Colin, but one way of getting it moved is to use Shiply
http://www.shiply.com/

The system is that you state what it is that you want moving, where from and where to, and then wait for quotes to come in. You will very often get a very competitive rate from someone who has empty transport returning from another delivery. The system also has a review and scoring process so you get recommendations and an idea of what standard service to expect.

I have had things as varied as a non-running Maserati to 3 pallets of roofing tiles collected and moved for very reasonable prices.
Guy Weller

Hi Guy
Cheers Buddy!!
Thx
colin
colin frowen

Alternatively, in the past there have been occasions where folk here have done a "pass the parcel" to move items from one end of the country to the other. Can take a while as it is dependant on journeys people are already making and timing but it has worked well before.

It was quite common at one time but I don't think it has been done in recent years.

Where is the engine and where does it need to go to - presumably Hythe?

Oh, and my guess on the engine weight would be at around 120 lbs. I know I can lift and carry a 1275 short distances, but its a struggle!
Guy Weller

120kg should cover it. We weighed the 1275 we replaced with the K series and made it about 106 on some not very accurate bathroom scales. And that may have been with ancillaries.
Paul Walbran

Yes, I should have said 120Kgs, not lbs. I thought I had corrected that with the edit option but must have missed the cut-off time.
Guy Weller

In my youth, I could pick up a 948 engine and just about move with it. I would guess that a 1098 isn't much heavier, unlike a 1275, which is a lot heavier.
Dave O'Neill 2

Interesting. Why would a 1275 be heavier than a 1098. It has bigger holes in it! ;-)

When I say I could lift one that was 10 years ago. I lifted my 1275 - no ancillaries - off the floor and staggered a few paces to put it onto the tailboard of a Toyota pickup. I am pretty sure I couldn't do that now though, I've had too many birthdays!

Back to the original reason for the question though - Colin, if you need an engine transporting why not post the required journey details here and see if anyone can help?
Guy Weller

ditto! :-)
Paul Walbran

Hi Guys ( & especially Guy)
I did follow up the Shipley thing. They just wanted an approx weight.
I feel guilty enough asking " daft"questions, I don't want to put people to the trouble of lugging a lump about for me......
Thanks all.
Colin
colin frowen

Its how it works Colin. Someone does you a kind favour and on another occasion you are in a position to help someone else out, -- who in turn . . . You shouldn't be embarrassed to ask. You may be giving someone else an opportunity to feel good.

Having said that, I suspect I am well clear of the required engine transportation route ! ;-)
Guy Weller

indeed, but although the holes are bigger it doesn't have any holes in the side. The later 1275 also have a more robust structure. 'The thick wall block'
Bob Beaumont

;-)
Guy Weller

I've just weighed a few engine parts:-

948 crank is 8.9Kg

1275 crank is 11.2Kg - nearly 26% heavier.

948 piston + pin is 291g

1275 piston + pin is 386g - nearly 33% heavier.

I don't have any 948 conrods, but they are smaller and lighter than 1275s.

Main bearing caps are bigger and heavier, as are many other parts.

The 1275 block does have more weight, despite the holes!
Dave O'Neill 2

Interesting details to account for some of the added weight, Dave.

My comment about the holes was a joke.
Guy Weller

I thought you were.

It was interesting to compare weights. Now I know why I was busting a gut trying to pick up a 1275!
Dave O'Neill 2

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