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MG Midget and Sprite Technical - (next problem!) Bottom rad hose and engine mount

Next problem... :-) Has anyone ever encountered this before?

1500 engine, my bottom rad hose rubs up against the engine mount (red circled). During the short time that I have had the engine running (before spotting this) it appears to have caused the rad-hose joint to work a little loose and start weeping onto the steering rack and down (blue circled puddle).

Going to try draining things and put the hose on the other way round. It looked symmetrical but maybe not...

Cheers,
Malc.

M Le Chevalier

Might try a zip tie to hold the 2 togather and prevent rubbing

Prop
Prop and the Blackhole Midget

Fit the A-series that the space was designed for
Onno K

I will pass thanks Onno, this strikes me as an easier problem to deal with than sorting out the breathing on an A-series ;-)
M Le Chevalier

My bottom hose is right up against the mount too (matron!)but no problem from it so far. Thanks for the warning. when the cars back on the road I'll keep an eye on it.
Nick Nakorn

You can get s/s braided sleeving to put a hose through which while far from the perfect solution will give you a bit of time while you work out what needs to be changed.
Daniel Stapleton

plastic spiral wrap from any hydraulic hose stockist or cable supplier. Just wind it round.
Available in many sizes and great for preventing hose/cable chafing.
RS Hughes

I put some 2mm rubber sheet between the mount and the hose and cable tied it to the hose. Stops the abrading of the hose.Cheers
R W Bowers

OK, so if it happens on others, maybe it is supposed to be like that, quality British engineering and all that!

Depending on how lazy or otherwise I feel I might try removing it and putting it on the other way, or maybe just tighten it up a bit to stop the leak and be done with it.

It just doesn't seem right that they should be touching. Engine and therefore hose will be vibrating, mount is rigid. A recipe for chaff-age for sure!

Malcolm.
M Le Chevalier

Has the hose been pushed fully onto the water pump and radiator spigots? Alternatively, could one [or both] 'arms' of the hose be shortened to create a gap between the hose and the mount.

No experience of the 1500 but just an idea.
Doug Plumb

My 1275 Frog has this problem. I put a jubilee clip on the hose just where it rubs on the engine mount. Works a treat.

Rob
Rob aka MG Moneypit

Assuming it is the correct hose, and putting it on the other way around didn't help, maybe try loosening the clamps and slightly rotating the hose on the outlet(s) one way or the other. This might cause the center of the hose to move up just enough to clear the mount.
Jack Orkin

Good Evening Everybody,

I had exactly this problem , had an A series radiator fitted into the 1500 engine bay. The radiator was knackered anyway so fitted a new 1500 rad , problem solved , and yes the hose was chaffed/damaged very quickly.

Best regards ,

Chris Buckenham
C H Buckenham

I think I'll find a section of old hose, slit it lengthways and put it over as a cover and secure with tie-wraps.
Nick Nakorn

nick dodges left, now forces right of center, he hurdle jumps ...LINEs up, he shOOTS...SCORE !!!!

Gold star for nick

Prop

Prop and the Blackhole Midget

Just to conclude this, I took the hose off, tried to rotate it and tried it on the other way but still the same problem. Slight design flaw and/or slightly off spec new hoses?

Anyway, I have done what Rob did and put on a hose clamp half way up the hose to protect it where it touched the mount.

Pic shows where the mount was digging into the hose.

Cheers all,
Malcolm.

M Le Chevalier

New(ish) engine mounts? The 1500 type ones made these days for the usual suspects sag terribly, resulting in the engine sitting too low/at the wrong angle. Then things like this happen.
Roadwarrior

Malc

I seriously dont think id want to play strip to nude poker with you....haha

Your a brave man, or desperate with cash, id replace the hose...im sure if it where me on a hot day, at 80mph, for 3 hours, that notch would just blow out

For the size of damage I dont think a hose clamp with help much over the long term

I still like nicks thinking for this

But just for piece of mind, id replace the hose or cut out the bad spot and use some kind of splice tube with a couple of hose clamps

Prop

Prop and the Blackhole Midget

looks like it is a common problem got my engine out at moment but marks on hose

mark 1500 on the road Preston Lancs

it should not be a problem when i refit it with new hoses samco are 9mm thinner at that point

mark 1500 on the road Preston Lancs

Mark

Just the electric color alone will repell any damage

NICE

Prop
Prop and the Blackhole Midget

Looking at the photos of the hoses that are chaffing against the engine mount, I would say that they are poorly formed. To clear the engine mount, the OE hose has a distinct upwards 'U' bend so that it clears the mount.
Andy Hock

So junk new parts it is then! Wonder if my old hose is still about or if I chucked it (just to compare).

Thanks Andy.
M Le Chevalier

Men ,
Are you sure that you have the correct radiator fitted ?

If you have an A series radiator fitted in a 1500 setup you will get that interference on the lower hose with the engine mount.
C H Buckenham

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