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MG MG Y Type - 70th Anniversary Y-Type Rally Australia 2017 Quiz

So one of the entertainments at dinner in Nambour recently was an excellent quiz set by Bob & Tricia Simpson.

Have a go and post your answers below:

1 What year was the Y-type originally planned to be introduced?
2 How many pre-production cars were believed to have been built in 1945/6?
3 Who designed the front suspension for the Y-type & what else was he famous for?
4 What is the brand of the original coach key for the spare wheel compartment?
5 Who was the driver of YB1551 who won the Daily Express Production Touring Car Race at Silverstone,
& in what years did he win?
6 What was N.O.L.?
7 What is the brand name on the original flat-plate spanners in the tool kit?
8 What Hollywood star bought a Y-type?
9 It is currently believed that 904 tourers were built. What then is the total of YA's & YB's combined, built?
10 What is the bore & stroke of a standard XPAG engine?
11 Who designed the Y-type body & what other MG did he design?
12 What brand & model of grease gun was originally supplied in the YA/YT tool kit?
13 What two-tone colour scheme was originally offered on the Y-type?
14 How many YB's were imported new into Australia?
15 Name the journalist who competed in the Monte Carlo Rally in a Y-type.
16 Name one of the Swiss coachbuilders who supplied bodies on Y-Type chassis'.
17 What company made the Jackall system?
18 Who made the lever-arm shock absorbers?
19 In what month & year did the YB supersede the YA?
20 In what year was the prototype "Y" constructed?

Paul
Paul Barrow

Looks like nobody is brave enough to volunteer any answers -LOL.

Care to post the answers Paul?

Matthew.
M Magilton

Thanks Matthew, you got the ball rolling so let's start a collective effort to get all these answered.I have much work to do for a time to come so I should learn and know the answers to these questions.
See if I can answer the first one ,
1. 1940. at the London Motor Show 🍺
CR Dickinson

2= Alec Issigonis' work notes for that period do not mention any work on the Y type.
3= Alec Issigonis. Also Morris Minor and Morris Mini/Austin Seven.
9= 7432 excluding the YT.
10= 66.5mm, 90mm.
11= You probably mean Gerald Palmer, but in his autobiography he says the Y type design was well advanced when he took over. Also ZA Magnette.
19= First YB 0251 had engine installed in November 1951.
20= 1939.

Thinking about the others.

Could also try; What other Morris or MG had a rear panhard rod, and who was responsible for using it on the Y type (slightly unfair question).
Also; Who designed the front anti-roll bar used in the YB.
R A WILSON

Should have said for 2, David Lawrence implies two, but not mentioned by Issigonis.
R A WILSON

17. Smiths.
8. Montgomery Clift

R Taylor

18 is probably Girling.
R A WILSON

5= Dick Jacobs.
6= 1952, 1953, 1954.
15= Barbara Marshall and Betty Haig, 1950.
R A WILSON

Ha-ha - no one is willing to risk it and answer them all? and you all have access to the IMGYTR website, and Let there be Ys etc.!!

All those who were at the dinner had to attempt them all :)!!

Paul
Paul Barrow

Going to those links, Paul, means you need to be internet savvy. I'm still in the quill & ink era. Here's a question (and the answer) Which classic MG is not depicted on my shirt? Sad to say, the Y Type. But you've got to check out the buttons.

R Taylor

Of All those at the dinner who was the only sleuth to answer all?

And pray tell, the N.O.L , how does this relate to the years mentioned- I must have missed history and Latin classes.

CR Dickinson

No. 16 Beutler
Still some unanswered,.
CR Dickinson

A few answers from the Midlands UK

1 What year was the Y-type originally planned to be introduced?
1940
2 How many pre-production cars were believed to have been built in 1945/6?
3 Who designed the front suspension for the Y-type & what else was he famous for?
ALEC ISSIGONIS - Morris Minor and the Mini
4 What is the brand of the original coach key for the spare wheel compartment?

5 Who was the driver of YB1551 who won the Daily Express Production Touring Car Race at Silverstone,
& in what years did he win?
DICK JACOBS 1952, 53 and 54
6 What was N.O.L.?
BRAND OF OIL SUPPLIED BY DUCKHAMS - Non Organic Liquid?
7 What is the brand name on the original flat-plate spanners in the tool kit?
KING DICK
8 What Hollywood star bought a Y-type?
GENE TIERNEY
9 It is currently believed that 904 tourers were built. What then is the total of YA's & YB's combined, built?
YA: 6158 YB;1301= 7459
10 What is the bore & stroke of a standard XPAG engine?
66.5 X 90

11 Who designed the Y-type body & what other MG did he design?
GERALD PALMER/ MAGNETTE
12 What brand & model of grease gun was
originally supplied in the YA/YT tool kit?
TELCAMIT
13 What two-tone colour scheme was originally offered on the Y-type?
ELIZABETH GREY WITH EITHER BRITISH RACING GREEN or SHIRES GREEN
14 How many YB's were imported new into Australia?
39
15 Name the journalist who competed in the Monte Carlo Rally in a Y-type.
GREGOR GRANT
16 Name one of the Swiss coachbuilders who supplied bodies on Y-Type chassis'
REINBOLT AND CHRISTIE.
17 What company made the Jackall system?
SMITH AND SONS
18 Who made the lever-arm shock absorbers?
LUVAX GIRLING
19 In what month & year did the YB supersede the YA?
NOVEMBER 1951
20 In what year was the prototype "Y" constructed?
1939
J P BIRKBECK

Ahh forgot to thank Paul for the questions.

Cheers
Jerry
J P BIRKBECK

Puzzled by 9; the last Y was 7285, then deduct 250 as counting started at 251, then deduct 904 for the YT, leaves 6131.
The last YB was 1551, then deduct 250 as counting started at 251, leaves 1301.
Thus Y + YB = 7432.
For 11; Gerald Palmer states in his autobiography "I did not design the YA body; this had been done in the Morris drawing office as an extension of Leslie Hall's design for the Morris Eight saloon".
R A WILSON

Dont thank me Jerry - the quiz was set by Bob & Tricia Simpson.
Paul Barrow

My figure for Q9 came from Anders Clausager's book om MG Saloons. He has an excellent summary of Y sales and destinations and sets out total Ys built by type YA YB & YT. The YT figures are the often quoted 877 but the 'accepted' figure is now 904.

The production figures for YAs is thus: RHD Home 3147
RHD Export 2304
LHD Export 311
LHD Export 15

North American export
Chassis RHD 9
CKD RHD 372
Making a Total 6158
So 6158 《YA》+ 1301 《YB》 =
7459

The info is on p181 of MG Saloon Cars (from the 1920's to the 1970's) by Anders Ditlev Clausager and published in 1998.

Hope that helps clarify thd picture a little!

Cheers
Jerry













J P BIRKBECK

Thank you for the explanation of Y type numbers, but my data comes from the original production records. They show that the last Y type was 7285, fitted with engine XPAG/SC2/17106 on the 19th Nov 1951. Difficult to know where the extra 27 cars came from.
R A WILSON

The 39 YB's exported to Australia, are they listed in production records as Australia bound, or some other source?

Matthew.
M Magilton

The production records only show the number of the engine fitted to each car, and if the engine was changed later, normally giving a date, but rarely the replacement engine number. Occasionally there are comments such as 'chassis only' or 'IDK' (?) or Development or Experimental. For the TD the records also show if the car was 'Home' or EXU or EXL or EXR, and for the TF they show the 'Spec'. The production records do not show the actual destination of each car - I can only assume there were separate sales records; if so I have not seen them.
R A WILSON

The IMGYTR have certain other records specific to the import of our cars to Australia.
Paul Barrow

I would be interested to know which records they are Paul.
M Magilton

If you check out the "Picture of the Month" you will see one little moment in time that made the 70th even more special & International !.
A L SLATTERY

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