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MG MG Y Type - Boot trim panels

Does anyone have a dimensioned drawing or pattern for the side trim panels in the boot of a Y?
M Long

I believe Jack Murray may be able to help you here as I used some patterns from him a while ago.

Best material to make these from is MILLBOARD which is available from Woolies Trim Suppliers (see Links page at www.mgytypes.org). It is extremely tough to cut and you will need the patience of a Saint and the strength of an ox ... but it makes really nice panels!!

Paul
Paul Barrow

Hey. I will be glad to make a drawing of my YB panels, but it will be at least two weeks as I am out of pocket. Let me know if you need them at that time. Thanks. Larry
Larry Brown

Hi Mike,

I'm retriming my YA at the moment including re carpeting the boot, if you would like to pop over to Sandown with your tape messure you can have a look at my boot side panels.

Alan Parker

Sandown IOW
A J Parker

Thanks to all who responded. I have now got all the info and help that I need.
Mike
M Long

Side trim panels in the boot ? Didn't know there should be any, to make that space even smaller, I guess...My YB obviously came into my possession without them. Now I am curious. Should that millboard be Rexine-covered ? And the dimension/shape info that M. Long requested has by-passed the BBS. Can those who gave it to him also post it here ?
Remo Peter

Remo

No just black millboard. There are two side pieces, one either side, and then one across the backside of the rear seat.

The trim is supposed to stop pieces of small luggage disappearing into the Spare Wheel Compartment, not just make the trunk area smaller.

I will see if we can gt some dimensions and add these to the website. That would be better than adding them to the BBS as the thread will eventually go into archive.

Paul
Paul Barrow

Thanks, Paul, good idea to put your info into the Y site. There might be a few others ignorant of those panels' existence. Indeed, I once found something believed lost, down by the spare wheel's side.
Remo Peter

Paul
I made a cardboard pattern from the boot panel in another car and used it to cut the panels for my car. I still have the cardboard pattern and CAD drawing facilities. I am willing to make a dimensioned drawing to post on the website, unless anyone else has already offered.
Mike
M Long

I have now owned my YA for 49 years and over that time bits either rotted or fell off or even non standard parts fitted especially when it was in use as every day transport just to keep it on the road. So now I have no idea what the original specification was, and to learn that there are carpets and side panels in the boot is a revelation, please tell me more!
B Mellem

Mike - yes please. Look forward to receiving something from you. A CAD type srawing would be much better than anything I can do.

Bryan - the floor of the trunk had a sort of thin flexible fiber board on it rather than a carpet. See Let there be Ys - pages 201 and 202.

For people that are not able to own this excellent book, watch this space as YZ Publications are busy working with the author to bring you a digitized version on CD shortly.

Paul
Paul Barrow

This image is from my old handbook but since these pictures have proved in the past somewhat controvrsial I'm am more cautious now. The sides look to me like mouldings, which would be beyond my construction ability, the floor could be anything. The chain attachments are clearly a bit odd likewise the spare wheel hatch.

B Mellem

Bryan

The picture of the SWC is actually very similar to what went into production (I'd even go as far as to say "was in production").

The side pieces in the trunk picture though are again with a bit of artistic licence though as black millboard would not show up so well on a black car. Technology in terms of "moulding" was not as advanced as it is today by a long chalk and black millboard was used for lining even through the Magnette III and IV.

Paul
Paul Barrow

Gentlemen,
It so happens that I have got the boot nearside trim panel off my YA at the moment. It's made, I think, from what Paul calls fibreboard. It has a black shiney surface on one side. You can see an example of this on the firewall under the dash - its exactly the same material. There is a single screw fixing it to the bodywork, and the panel is folded round toward the boot lid surround. The offside panel seems to be a mirror image of this one. Attached is a drawing I made by tracing round it, also a photo. It's not flat, but the dimensions should be about right. Hope this helps.

Paul,
If you would like to use these for the Data section, please feel free.

Tony K

A B Knowles

Here is picture 2

A B Knowles

For those of you who don't have a copy of Let There Be Y's by David Lawrence I have attached a picture of the Trunk floor covering. As Paul advised it is made of a thin fibre material very similar to the Millboard used on the side panels. Surprisingly it is only approx .060 inch thick while the side panel Millboard is approx. .100 inch thick. It seems as if this was a poor choice of material as it is easily damaged by heavy or sharp objects. As a consequence so few have survived over the years. The material had a flat shiny surface unlike the side panels which had a slightly textured surface.
This panel slips approx half inch under the lip at the trunk opening and the forward edge along the rear seat backrest is held down by a timber strip 20mmx20mm with a quarter inch chamfer at the top edge.
T J Ciantar

Sorry here is the picture. Trust it works this time

T J Ciantar

This is a picture with floor panel in place.
I will attempt to draw a diagram of the floor panel and have it placed on Y Type site.

T J Ciantar

Although not directly connected to the boot trim panels, the photograph of the open boot showing the tatty chain sleeving reminded me of my solution to sleeving for the new chains fitted to my boot by the last owner. After much searching for a suitable material, I found some heat shrink cable sleeving in my local Maplin store. It is a reasonable substitute for the original sleeving, possibly not good enough for the perfectionist, but cheap and easily obtainable. I did not heat it though.

Mike Long
M Long

In the handbook picture, the long cylindrical thing behind the tyre, is that a jack? Missing on my YB.
Larry Brown

Larry if you are refering to the item lying between the tyre and the boot edge and to the right of the tyre hold down bracket it is the Handle for the Jackall Pump, also just visable beneath it is part of the Wheel Brace.

Terry
T J Ciantar

Thanks. I can make it out now. Larry
Larry Brown

Larry There was a stirrup tyre pump as part of the tool kit, this after the leather washer wore out I hid, I know not where. As far as I know there was no jack supplied [for obvious reasons], a wheel brace, starting handle, and jack handle were the only items that came with my car in 1960. The tool kit had gone A W O L Bryan
B Mellem

As promised, I have drawn up the panel from the sketch by Tony Knowles as a scaled CAD drawing, transferred to a jpeg using Acrobat rather than scanned. I think that all of the dimensions are correct, but the resolution of Tony's scanned sketch was not good. Perhaps Tony could check the dims from the original sketch and let me know if any are incorrect. The top left dimension marked 'approximate' on the sketch is given on my drawing as an actual dimension, assuming that all of the other dimensions and angles are accurate.

Mike

M Long

Thank you Mike - that is superb.

I will be adding this to the collection of parts drawings on the site in the next few hours.

If Tony comes back and the dimension in question (or any of the others change as a result Mike would you please be able to re-do so I can update the permanent copy on the site?

Thank you both for this long overdue addition to the site.

Paul
Paul Barrow

Detailed plans for the boot floor liner have been posted on the Parts Drawings page at www.mgytypes.org courtesy of Terry Ciantar today.

Paul
Paul Barrow

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