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MG MG Y Type - MG Car Club Y-Type Register. New Website

The MGCC Y- Type Register is pleased to announce the launch of our new website. Richard Knight, a YB owner has offered to administer it for us and we have welcomed him on to our committee. The aim of the site is to foster Y ownership and preserve the MG Y marque. Our initial objective is to provide a platform for our Regalia and Restoration Shop and a means to administer the MG Car Club Y-Type Register. From these modest beginnings Richard intends to develop a dynamic living site that will become another excellent resource for Y owners.
Please take time to visit the site at www.mgccyregister.com
Peter Vielvoye
MGCC Y-Type Register Chairman
P W Vielvoye

The active URL is http://www.mgccyregister.com/

Paul
Paul Barrow

Richard Knight has resigned as our web administrator and we thank him for all his hard work in setting up our excellent new site. It is still online and our shop remains open. Please bear with us as we reorganise our site administration.
Peter Vielvoye
Y-Type Register Chairman
P W Vielvoye

As Alice said (in Wonderland, you will recall) "curiouser and curiouser".

Michael
j m nicholson

Michael,

Nothing to be curious about, simply was taking too much time, hence I resigned my role as Web Administrator and from the Committee of the MG Y Register.

The MGCC Site will for sure be a huge success as it is a more modern site for the current day, it is much clearer than the old MGCC Y Register site, makes good use of CSS code so that everything isn't designed by layout of a table and offers an alternative to the old MG Car Club Y Register site now run and managed by the old web administrator of the MG Y Register who resigned before me and continued the site under it's present name called IMGYR (International MG Y Register).

The MGCC Y Register is the oldest and largest established Register of known Y Types and caters for all things Y and I for one would support and urge members to take a look at the extensive items sold in the Y Register shop.

Mike Silk I know is really keen to help Y Owners and works hard to get the best possible price to keep postage low for us Y Type owners.

It was great to see the thread about where to get Y Jackalls serviced here in the UK this will be my next project.

Anyway hope this answers your curiosity and please do send all your content to the MGCC Y Register as I am sure that once they are sorted the site will flourish to become once again a top read for Y Related material and source of information.
I for one like their style of a page per car and look forward to seeing it grow.

Keep up the good work MGCC Y Register!

Richard Knight
Member of MGOC, MGOCC and MGCC!




R E Knight

I find the above post offensive to the IMGYTR and especially to my friend Paul.

Please refrain from sharing your thoughts of others and their contributions to the Y-Type fellowship through this BBS forum.

Those of us who know Paul as a friend can easily contact him directly for all the facts you have eluded to (many of which I understand are untrue).

Many of us have a passion for Y-Types that existed long before any "MG Car Club" cared or even knew this model existed. We have every right to maintain our independence.

To all the friends of the IMGYTR, Have a Nice Day.
A Slattery

I know little about the politics of the MGCC and the Y websites but it seems to me that Paul barrow ran the official y site in an excellent manner. It was the best one model website that I have seen and his new site is the same. The present site is not a shadow of the original.
What little I know of the circumstances does not agree with what is being said here, and I wonder why?
However as I do not now own a Y it is, I suppose, none of my business.

Michael
j m nicholson

Michael,

I too know little of the politics it was before my time. However you elude to Paul site being excellent, for the content I agree he runs an excellent site as said by him on 13/04/2002, in an old thread.
The layout could be better, look at more up to date site compared to current and read about current web code and you would know this is based on how the web has moved on.The site was started in April 2002 and most site undergo improvment in layout as the web progresses this is my point.
The site he has is the old MGCC Y Register site so of course it is good.
In respect of the new site, it was started in February 2010 and you compare it's content against a site running since 2002, of course for content it does not compare but I urge you give it time. The MGCC Y Register are entitled to aspire to have their own new site to replace their old site.

In respect of my reply I was just answering your curiosity. I am member of the main three MG Car Clubs in the UK and my comments are my own views and not written on behalf or request of others.

Tony, I really did not mean to cause you offence in answering an honest reply to Michael.

Take care and peace to all Y Types.

Richard
R E Knight

Richard,
I do not understand or wish to delve into your resignation from the MGY Register of the MGCC and from your post of webmaster, but I do certainly think that this BBS is NOT the place to air your personal criticisms of this site and conversely promote the MGCC Y Type website. This site should be "non-political" and a place to discuss and share car problems and solutions, whatever ones persuasion as to club allegiance.

Perhaps with hindsight, it would have been far more sensible to answer Michael Nicholson’s posting of “curiouser and curiouser”, simply with the first line of your reply,

“Nothing to be curious about, simply was taking too much time, hence I resigned my role as Web Administrator and from the Committee of the MG Y Register".

You may like to consider asking the Webmaster to remove the remainder of your “explanation” and all subsequent postings to avoid any further unseemly tit for tat exchanges.
Suggested for the good of the Y Community.
Keith D Herkes

Keith,
I respect your view, but no I won't ask for any removal, this BBS is not linked to any particular site IMGYR or MGCC Y or any other and the idea of BBS is for persons to express their opinions/views provided it is not abusive, derogatory or defamatory.

It is up to others to decide if they wish to participate or not!

My length of reply was to save back and forth replies and to save ambiguity.

Also I was only replying to question!

In the past I've seen lots of posts that do not conform to just your idea of discussing and sharing car problems and solutions. The biggest thing is promotion of eBay items, where there is classified section for such things. Hey if people choose to reply fine if not fine, but I do feel people have right to freedom of expression and speech regardless of views!

Take care and off topic of this thread any updates on Head Lamp brackets?

Regards

Richard
R E Knight

Richard

I think that I speak on behalf of many supporters of the IMGYR website, when I say that it is content that is important and not the source language etc. The popularity of the mgytypes.org site would tend to indicate that your views are in a minority. Your posting implies that CSS (Cascading Style Sheets) is completely new. If you look at Wikipedia you will find that it was developed/registered by the World Wide Web Consortium on the 17th December 1996; hardly a new invention. I do not understand web design and had to Google this. I suspect that 99% of other readers of the Bulletin Board will not have a clue about CCS, HTML or WTFC.

It may also be worth remembering that the common interest we all share is the Y Type, production ceased almost 60 years ago. We haven’t replaced them with a new higher technical specification car just because they exist. I am a keen supporter of ‘If it isn’t broke then don’t try and fix it’.

I am confused as to why if you have resigned as web administrator of the new site, due to lack of time, then why you are trying to promote a static site. If a site contents are interesting then it will grow organically. It would appear that you are criticising a well established site, enjoyed by many, trying to ‘score points’ in favour of your ex‘Fledgling’ site. Perhaps if you have so much time to spend on this Bulletin Board then perhaps you should return to your role as Web Administrator. On the other hand as was famously said "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." Your postings on this thread, and others do tend towards proving the latter as you are clearly exercising some sort of mission against www.mgytypes.org - a site that I, and many others like and enjoy.

Finally you make the point about this BBS being used for eBay items etc. I find that very useful as I read this, find good items like the one Mr Herkes mentioned, and then go for those as I dont need anything for my car. Think before you fly to the keyboard next time.

Corry
Corry Grainger

As a professional web developer I find Richard's boasts about the new site rather puzzling. There is a well-known adage in the industry - which as a fellow web designer, no doubt Richard is aware of - that states "Content is King". That is to say: you could be using the latest, state-of-the-art technology on your website (which, by the way, the MGCC Y website is not particularly - it appears to be just a customised skin of the freely downloadable open source Content Management System Drupal), but if you don't have any content, you're just a peon of the King's Court... albeit a slightly better dressed one, perhaps.

Regarding CSS, if you view the source of the IMGYR's website, you will see within four lines that it uses CSS also (everything in those style tags is CSS), and I would wager it probably has from day one. In these days of superfast internet connections, the caching benefits CSS afforded when it was released are now minimal and so the only benefit of dedicated stylesheets as opposed to inline statements is for organisation/maintainability of the code by the web designer, which is not an issue that impacts the visitor to a site and therefore not a relevant "plus point" to be championing.

The point about web technology is not simply the fact that you have used it, but rather that you have used it *effectively* to benefit the end user's experience. Take for instance the IMGYR's online database, which was programmed using Microsoft's ASP.NET. The bells and whistles of the underlying programming is irrelevant; what matters is that Y-Typers now have access to details of some 3000 Y-Types which they did not before - using technology to improve and assist the Marque, not just to look "modern" or to use it for technology's sake.

Steve James
http://ttypes.org
Steve James

Totally agree with Steve - it is content that matters rather than flash and bang.

If it were about a beauty competition then sure for some the blue and white may do it, but I like the look and feel of the International site besides it does work for me with the subtle brown on beige or whatever it is feel. The MGCC site is good if you need a club or want spares from their shop so I think there is room for both - this site as a repository of everything you want to knwo about the Y Type, and the MGCC one if you need aclub.

Roll on Y Types.

Corry
Corry Grainger

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