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MG MG Y Type - MG Y for sale by auction
| A colleague has sent me some info on a Y for sale at Poole Motor Auctions (South West Motor Auctions) l believe the actual auction is scheduled for April. Not sure, but I think car could be Y6769 Reg. LXV 857. If it is this car, it is shown on page 27 of John Lawson's ' Y-Types Saloons and Tourers'. This car has had over £30,000 spent on it over the years and has been totally rebuilt. If anyone lives in the area it may be worthwhile investigating if only to keep Paul's records up to date. |
| M C Bath |
| Mick, I got told about this car and updated Paul with URL. Agree with your sentiments to keep data base updated, at least you are free to search and look up data easily online. I cannot think of any other provider, except ttypes.org (T Types) who offers such great tool, providing information to prospective owners, history to current owners, unlike the main clubs who charge you the privilege to join, and freely receive your information on your cars but reluctant to release or share their information to you the enthusiast. The tool has helped me find local Y owners making new contacts sharing common interest. Richard |
| R E Knight |
| £35,000 spent, estimated sale price: £13,750/£14,750. There are those who prefer their cars a little less pristine, even so, if it sold for £20K the buyer would have a real bargain. https://www.swva.co.uk/classic-car/mg-y-type-1951/ |
| R Taylor |
| Richard Once again Richard you take the opportunity to have a snipe at the MGCC Y Register. For the benefit of readers who may not know, any request to the MGCC Y Register for information about a specific car is always answered as fully as possible and with as much detail as we have subject to Data Protection. The volunteers who work on the Y Register committee spend a vast amount of time helping prospective buyers, solving technical problems, organising Y events and indeed promoting anything that helps maintain the MG Y marque, they deserve everyone’s support. This forum is a brilliant resource for all of us let’s use it only to promote everything Y. Peter Vielvoye Chairman MGCC Y Type Register |
| Peter Vielvoye |
| Peter, My post was to promote a useful tool that Y Owners may find useful, and highlight the importance of keeping records up to date and accurate, a fair point raised by Mick Bath's post and I re-quote Mick Bath " If anyone lives in the area it may be worthwhile investigating if only to keep Paul's records up to date" Link here for anyone who is unaware of it. http://www.corvette-shopper.net/ytype/register/index.aspx Forgive me if I missed the MGCC Y Register's version of request tool?, please share link here so I may use it. I'm awfully sorry if you misread my post as I fail to see how I've "sniped at MGCC Y Register" when I referred to main car clubs (MG Octagon Car Club, MG Owners Club, MG Car Club etc) and made no reference to MGCC Y Register. I seldom visit the MGCC Y Register website as I never previosuly saw any updates. The only information is a monthly email from yourself and a small monthly update in Safety Fast, all my other information about events is from www.mgytypes.org which is a good regular source of International updates, I found great event in Germany I recommend to UK owners, lots of roads in forest and great hosts. http://www.mg-cars.org.uk/imgytr/oldevents.shtml and another great resource is MG Octagon car club bulletin which often has Y related articles. Richard |
| R E Knight |
| The car is indeed pristine. I'm very curious what the final price will be. It will be obvious that the owner won't recover the restoration costs and the buyer will get a bargain. |
| Willem van der Veer |
| All, I went to view this car today, it looks very neat and tidy, well worth considering for anyone looking for Y Type. Like most saloons not every detail is 100% correct but I was impressed with the car. Paul, all details in an email for you with the correct details of the car's relevant numbers. Richard |
| R E Knight |
| An interesting car but quite why anyone would choose to spend £30k on a Y saloon makes one wonder.Although if anyone spends any money on a major rebuild it is the bodywork that swallows up the money and since the Ys mechanics and electrics have a commonality with the T series that side is perhaps a little more manageable. Nonethless a quality XPAG rebuild by a specialist will be in the order of £4-5k so it is easy to understand just how quickly money can be swallowed up. I have to admire the skill and fortitude of some who have rebuilt any car and a Y saloon must match this. If any of you have seen the current issue of Classic Cars there is an epic professional restoration of the Triumph TR2 prototype that has just been restored the work, time and skillsets involved are staggering and the coosts ate very serious money especially how the aluminium tonneau cover was remanufactured. That of course is an original car and I guess if someone has the money then good luck to them! Cheers Jerry From the cafe at UCL Hospital in Central London awaiting a scan! |
| Jerry Birkbeck |
| A quick addition to the note about sharing and updating vehicle details. All Clubs and Registers who keep lists and details of vehicles have to be mindful of Data Protection. The Uk is covered by the Data Protection Act and throughout the world most countries have a form of Data Protection. To ensure that this us strictly adhered to all Clubs can only provide data to existing members. This applies to John James TT2 site and to the IMGYR site. An owners consent has to be agreed in writing and am sure that Paul is more than aware of this and duly follows the letter of the law aa indeed the MGCC Y Register has to do. Nonetheless, sharing is brilliant and I am all for it but it has to be clearly understood and appreciated within the context of the law! Have fun Herry |
| Jerry Birkbeck |
| Thank you Richard - appreciate all that you do. Paul |
| Paul Barrow |
| Now home I have had a good chance to look at the photos on the website of the Y. It is extremely well done, though rather a pity that the restorer choose not to include the twin filament flasher and light in the side lamps. Though that is a moot point. The car has been expertly painted but the colour looks too modern for me rather like the Glacier White beloved by many modern vehicle manufacturers.Indeed one of my daughter's drives a white KIa Sportage and the colour is too clinical in my mind. I always thought that the colour that MG painted both the Y and the TC for that matter was 'Ivory' which has a slightly yellower finish to it. Thus making it rather more subtle in appearance. The other popular colour is of course Olde English White and this too is darker. The one Y that I knew well and was painted white was Jack Murray's Y, though for obvious reasons this has not been seen for a few years. Richrad, as you have seen both this car and Jack's could you confirm or not whether my impressions are anywhere near correct. I could well believe that £35k was spent on the restoration (and I do recall seeing the car in the Strathblane TV Series and as I have most of the editions of John Lawson's Newsletter in the house I'll check that out - although the pics are all black and white!). However, depending upon the outcome than even if £20k is realised then the vendor will have 'lost' a large amount of money on the project. Though anyone who buys it will have an excellent motor car! have fun Jerry Home in Warwickshire after further tests at the excellent University College London Hospital. Back again on Thursday for a full body scan and Friday for a PET Scan (a means of gaining high definition and quality pictures). Long 12 hour + days! One bonus was seeing a good looking Morris Minor 1000 Convertible parked just off Marylebone High Street a 1967/8 model judging by the plate. Quite a rarity but great to see! |
| Jerry Birkbeck |
| Jerry, Your comments about the IMGYTR and the sharing of data are quite crass. The IMGYTR are well aware of privacy legislation in many countries, not just the UK, and in all our activities this is paramount. I am sure John James is also across this issue with the TT2 site. To suggest that the way we share data on the cars in our online databases is in some way a breach of the law in any country is totally false. We share no personal information in our databases, only the information on the cars. Cars do not have privacy rights, only their owners - please try and grasp this concept. Our Y's on Parade section of the site does contain personal information, but this is made public by those owners themselves, it is not done by the IMGTYR. Please do not concern yourself with what we do in the IMGYTR, we are just getting on with the job of helping Y-Type Owners in every way all round the world - for FREE !. Yours in Y-Types Down Under Tony Slattery |
| A L SLATTERY |
| Dear Tony Of course I know it relates to individuals and not the cars. I did not say or even imply that 'the way we share data on the cars in our online databases is in some way a breach of the law' What I did say was 'sharing is brilliant and I am all for it but it has to be clearly understood and appreciated within the context of the law!' The aim of all organisations is to work with and help those who use their services which I would suggest is exactly what is done. However, some owners may be unaware of the requirements of data protection and it was for their benefit that I wrote this mote. This all came to light when a committee member was asked for the information on members cars held by the MGCC Y Register by a Club Member. When he was advised that this could not be done as it was contrary to the data protection legislation he was surprised. The present owner would need to give his consent. My posting merely noted that the IMGYR would be well aware of this as John James is on TT2. Although, as you mention no personal data is included on the Ys on Parade as this is provided by the owner at the time of posting. End of debate I hope! Cheers Jerry |
| Jerry Birkbeck |
| Jerry, I quote from your post directly:- "I did not say or even imply that 'the way we share data on the cars in our online databases is in some way a breach of the law' Exactly what are your data bases please? I don't know of any online data base that the MGCC Y Register host, and only know of the IMGYTR online data base tool, I believe your quote is misleading, please clarify for the purpose of any doubt please as it clearly was interpreted by me to mean the data bases the International Y register and that of the ttypes.org database, which carry clear privacy disclaimers. In your earlier quote you state: "To ensure that this us strictly adhered to all Clubs can only provide data to existing members" This quote again is misleading or two senior members of the MGCC Y register contradict one another as I quote Mr P Vielvoye earlier post verbatim:- "For the benefit of readers who may not know, any request to the MGCC Y Register for information about a specific car is always answered as fully as possible and with as much detail as we have subject to Data Protection." This is a clear quote that makes no reference to membership of MGCC or the fact that membership holds any benefit whatsoever when asking for data on cars. Richard |
| R E Knight |
| The car sold for £17000, an absolute snip. https://www.swva.co.uk/classic-car/mg-y-type-1951/ |
| R Taylor |
| Robert, This shows a trend...the prices of Y Types are on the up. Richard |
| R E Knight |
| That is a good price for a very nice car. Still a bargain! |
| Paul Barrow |
| https://www.facebook.com/mgoneandaquarterlitre/photos/a.1645512782339654.1073741827.1645508119006787/2275935682630691/?type=3&theater I note the MGCC Y Register Facebook page is asking if this car was Jack's car! Really? Clueless and insensitive question for all Jack did for the MGCC Y Register! Top man, he helped me a lot, never forgotten. On the theme of Auction's I note Y7281 sold at Auction (Entry 84) for £7k good buy for the new owner, if you are reading do please update the International MG Y Register with your details and the entry on Y's on parade. The other red YA car for sale on eBay in Slough was sold to new owner in Guernsey, the seller updated me on Tuesday so looking forwards to the details of the new owner flowing through soon. Richard |
| R E Knight |
| Hi Richard A bit of research revealed that the Poole car sold at auction was Y 6769 - not Jack Murray's car. Facebook post is incorrect. Paul |
| Paul Barrow |
| Paul, Correct, that's why I posted to this thread. I note the correction on their wall now with explanation of how the two being white could be mistaken. Richard |
| R E Knight |
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