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MG MG Y Type - Spare wheel Budget Lock cover fitting

Hi Guys
I am trying to fit new covers (Car had none when purchased) to the spare wheel cover Budget locks. Does anyone have a technique to fit them.

I have purchased 2mm x 16mm bolts and nuts to attach the covers, but getting pliers etc into the space at the back of the covers is v/hard.

Stuart
Stuart Duncan

From memory Stuart they arent bolted in!! You need a BA sized and threaded screw (2 for each lock) but I cannot recall off the top of my head which size. I want to say 2BA but I may be wrong.

Paul
Paul Barrow

picture of countersunk screws used to secure lock covers, screws, Scre thread dia approx 3.10mm,p;ease don't mention rust on edge i hang my head!!!
jo

JC Jebb

Jo, thank you for the thread dia.
3.10mm is 0.1220 inch which equates to about a 5BA thread (0.126 inch dia). Problem is the hole in the covers I purchased from Holden Vintage & Classic in the UK, is only about 2.5mm. NTG has a similar cover (C834). I am loath to drill out the cover and wreck the chrome.
Stuart
Stuart Duncan

Is the spare wheel cover painted painted if not you could braze over the hole and retap to the size you want. If it is painted what about filling the with a hard metal filler and again retapping. you could try first filling a small dia tube,tap it to see how strong it was that way.
John UMG624
JC Jebb

I tryed to add this to the last posting but failed, a very simple way would be force a small piece of dowell or cut down small rawlplug in the original threaded section and the use a small countersunk wood screw.
JohnUMG624
JC Jebb

John
The cover is painted (but the whole car needs to be cut back and repainted). I like your idea of a plug and a small counter sunk wood screw. I will look into it tomorrow and report back how it turned out.
Stuart
Stuart Duncan

stuart if you make the dowell the right size you should be able to screw it down the thread the screw would normally go, it needs to be a very tight fit then cut off flush with the edge panel. I think i woud drill a very tiny pilot hole through thr dowell before putting the wood screw in
John UMG624
JC Jebb

John
The wood dowel idea worked. I will include 3 photos with explanations, for those who have the same problem, in the future.

You need 4 - 5mm wooden dowels and 4 - 4g 10mm wood screws.

First, I put the dowel into a drill and used sand paper to reduce the dia to fit the lid holes.
Second, I twisted the dowel into the hole until it appeared out the other side of the thread.
Third, cut the dowels off (and ground back to level with metal)
Fourth, I drilled 1.5mm dia hole into the dowel
Fifth, I used 4g wood screws to attach the lock cover to lid.

Photo 1 shows one dowel cut off and drilled and another just screwed into the metal thread.
(Finish on car is very poor - as evident by the over painted flaked paint.)
Stuart

Stuart Duncan

Photo 2 shows finished lock with replacement T key (borrowed from Tony Slattery)

Stuart Duncan

Photo 3 - lock cover installed - job finished after 3 months trying various methods of attaching.

Thank you John for suggesting the wood dowels.
Stuart

Stuart Duncan

Stuart

Check Let there be Ys as I recall it said something about which side the hinges should go (towards the outside edge of the compartment lid, or towards the D Lamp) but I cannot remember totally. I seem to think it was towards the outside edge of the lid though for some mad reason.

Paul
Paul Barrow

hinge goes next to D lamp Paul, what i would like to know is why original covers had the edge cut off??
John UMG624
JC Jebb

Paul, a check of Let there be Ys (pg 138) states " ... always attached with the hinge inboard." Although the photo above the wording shows the hinge towards the outside of the lid.

John, also on the same page is reference to the cut off hinge flap used on the Y and YB saloons. But no mention of why different model covers were used on the Saloons and Tourers.

Stuart YT4310
Stuart Duncan

Hi All,
This might be of interest, I have found chrome metal covers that would suit a YT and a Y(if you are not bothered about the cutoff under £7 a pair inc vat. I will put more detail if of any interest see picture,
John UMG624

JC Jebb

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