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MG MG Y Type - talkng down the values of our great cars

You know we must be the only bunch of car owners in the world who, when a Y sells for a lot of money say "they overpaid" or if a car is advertised for a lot say "not worth it" yet if have ever to sell our pride and joy are disappointed we didnt get what it was worth.

I am not saying lets ramp the market, but just stop being negative about values. Let the market assess the value of them as there arent too many being made nowerdays.

CG
Corry Grainger

Absolutely agree with you their Corry,

If T-Types are worth $000s in any condition then th Y, being much more of a car (yes I admitto being biased too) should be worth mor too.
Paul Barrow

I'd prefer the prices to be on the lower side. I would never be able to afford pre-55 MG motoring if it wasn't for the Y (that is not until my children finish college/university etc. after that a TC shoud join the stable).
Willem vd Veer

Hi Willem

From an opportunistic buying point of view I can see where you are coming from, but we shouldnt make that our focus otherwise we should start another website and just say how appalingly bad Ys are (which they arent of course).
The intrinsic worth of an item is what it is really worth and yes, we wer lucky to get into Ys and realise how great they are before they began to be discovered via media such as the http://www.mgytypes.org site.

Sure there are other sites coming along as also rans, but they have a club tub to thump first and foremost and the emphasis is definitely more on the club not the car. This site is refreshingly unique in that it doesnt matter what club you are in - no one cares primarily about that, it is about the car - the site address tells it like it really is.

If the values go up, and I want another Y say a YB or a YT in my garage, then I have to find ways to fund that.

Dont be offended though Willem, as long as you love MG Ys ... I will like you too!

CG
Corry Grainger

No offence taken, Corry.

I fell in love with Y's when I was a six year old boy watching the gold YA of Frank Vautier racing around Silverstone, I recently found a photo that I took then of the race.
If I had unlimited funds and was allowed just two MG's it would be a K3 and a Y, so my love for the Y is deep. You will never catch me talking down the virtues of a Y.

That said, it is indeed a good thing that the Y is appreciating both in value and recognition, I just don't like people telling or asking of any classic car what it's worth.

I like to just enjoy my cars and, for instance, not to be afraid to go shopping in it for fear of it being to expensive for that (not that I do a lot of shopping...).
Willem vd Veer

Corry,

It's an interesting thread! I feel having read past BBS posts on the subject of Y Types that owners have generally reflected an honest opinion of the values of the Y Types.
Like my late father always told me "something is only worth what somebody else is prepared to pay!" How true! My interest (pre Internet)in Y types stems from a rusty YB being covered by tarp in my parents back garden, and I was hooked from a young age. Proud to be early 30s I look forward to years more Y Type motoring and therefore would not except anything less that £30k to prise it off me. Like everything the Y Type has it's price.
In respect of raising it's profile, there are benefits and negatives here, I like the fact it is unique and not "two to a penny" like a T Type or an MGB. The uniqueness makes it the highly prized value it is today.
Unlike Zoopla for houses, shame there were not a guide for sold prices for Y Types that would give future buyers an idea, and also the nosey like I.
For your information too, there is an interesting photographic gallery of a Y Restoration which is due to be painted only next week, on social media site Facebook.

Regards

Richard

R E Knight

Richard

Get real! Neither the Y Type nor the T Types are unique, though they are both fascinating and fun cars.
Unfortunately the word 'unique' is a much overused and abused word. Surely it might be a little more appropriate to say that each car has its own character, due to its age and the care and attention lavished by their respective owners.

I would agree with you that prices are rising due to the limited number available and an interest in Classic Cars as an investment. At present it appears that all so called 'classics' are increasing in value. This will probably not be the case in the near future, I would contend, as the economy continues on a downward spiral and the cost of fuel increases. In some respects an increase in price, whilst being favourable to the owner, restricts those who wish to purchase such a car.

The expectations that owners have of the value of their cars, whilst to an extent understandable, is in many cases totally over the top. The value of anything depends on its level of 'originality' (another overused and incorrect description!) and perhaps more significantly its provenance, with rarity adding to the price.

Despite Paul's wishes T Types will always be more desirable than Y Types, even though prices are increasing for the latter,

It comes down surely to enjoying any car for what it is to the owner and the key point is using the vehicle and showing others that there are alternatives to today's modern (but very efficient) euroboxes.

I am sure that whilst many of the public do derive some please from seeing a classic used, buy there are plenty who see them as a complete pain on the roads and cannot understand why the owners enjoy no road tax and low insurance in the UK. So use your cars and do let others enjoy them and try and get them interested in owning one, though if prices continue to rise they will be perceived as playthings of the well off. Is that really what we want?

Sincerely

Jerry
J P BIRKBECK

I have just re-read your comments Corry alluding, I guess to the MGCC Y Type Register site,in which you mention ' but they have a club tub to thump first and foremost and the emphasis is definitely more on the club not the car'.

I would entirely disagree with you on this point. As a Committee Member of the Y Type Register I would argue 'that we do not have a club tub to thump first ... and foremost.. and that the emphasis is more on the club than the car'. This is just not the case and if you take the time to look at what is included then you will see that there are a range of articles and notes contributed by several individuals.
Moreover, we have a regalia pages of products that are available to ALL Y Type owners and a rather different approach on events attended and models owned. So each site has its own USP as they say and long may it be so. Since both are on-line there are of course no charges

What it provides is an extra area of information about Y's and that must be for the good of all owners. Essentially it is a complementary site to the IMGY and may both continue to provide excellent knowledge to the MG Y Type.

Hope this helps to raise awareness! Must get on with fettling the YT between the showers on a grey, cold Sunday afternoon.

Sincerely

Jerry
J P BIRKBECK

Jerry,

Point taken! "Unique" was my wrong use of the word "sorry" But less/fewer Ys and a simple fact of a Y type not so likely to be seen, as other Makes/Models of classics at shows/events & general "Out & About" is what I like about a Y Type.

The biggest concern irrespective of fuel costs has to be the issue with Biofuel which has far greater impact for the classic car movement.
http://fbhvc.co.uk/2011/05/24/biofuel-additives/

Corry/Jerry I thought the issue of the two sites had been put to bed in the last posts of "April Fools Day 2011" in this thread;

http://www2.mgcars.org.uk/cgi-bin/gen5?runprog=mgbbs&mode=archiveth&archiveyear=13_2011.dat&access=&subject=13&subjectar=13&source=T&thread=2009120700201127674

-Why drag it up AGAIN?







R E Knight

When I first heard about the Y 6 years ago, I did a lot of research in order to familiarize myself with what seemed to be the ideal combination of characteristics I had been longing to find in a vintage car. Size, looks, charm, mechanics, handling and history scored very high marks with me. The only thing I just couldn't believe, and which frankly didn't correlate with everything else, was the average selling price. In my opinion, it would have been reasonable if it had been twice as much as what I encountered. It was so low that even adding trans-Atlantic shipping still didn't exceed my overall budget.

And here in Canada, I see lots and lots of ordinary, bland and plentiful American "used cars" (1960 to 1985) sell for more than a Y. The Y's low selling price is a true oddity...

Gilles Bachand

Good cool morning Richard and Jerry

Firstly to address the point about the different sites - that is wholly secondary to the issue I was raising. Perhaps that may be why I titled the thread talkng down the values of our great cars and nto lets compare the sites. If you want a fuller discussion on that then you reopen that thtread and I will be happy to contribute to it in some way. It does interest me though that they help promote the last two years for you but you as an organiser havent filed any reports on the events. I know others who went on them filed on your site but the advertising you get surely poilteneess would be to put something up on the IMGYTR. Up to you though.

The purpose of this thread was about the way it seems some Y people have about talking down the values. As someone said above its only market value worth is a buyer's appraisal so if you have concerns about a cars price to your perception of its value would it not be fairer to all to post something like I have seen this car in the flesh so if you are interested contact me first off line and I will suggest some things for you to look at? and ensure that you do give your email address. It looks like the whoever runs the board has some sort of code that hides your address from those programs that surf the web so you have nothing to fear there. Me - why dont I leave my address? dont need to because I dont make value judgements about other owners pride and joys and how they assess them.

What I dislike is the fact that some people think it is good manners to put their opinions on condition in to the public area. If your neighbour was selling his car in the paper would you run an "ad" saying how bad it was and how over valued it is? Probably not and neither would I.

Richard, you were quite right in sentiment earlier when you commented about the relative appeal T to Y and as a young guy I envy you getting behind the wheel of such a great car at such an early age. I have a mental picture of a baby in nappes and not much else playing happily in the car. You must have cut yourself on some rusty bit and it got into your blood stream that it followed you through to now to getting it on the road. Well done and many happy years ahead of you.

As my wonderful mother said if you dont have anything nice to say, dont say it.

Willem, Frank Vautier - so that was probably the same guy I saw one time too. Great way to promote the Y breed. If some one knows how to get in contact with him maybe they could interview him and that would an interesting Y eh Paul.

Well, it is monday so off to work such as it is. Hope this has addressed Jerry and Richard's concerns.

Be good, be kind, be safe

CG
Corry Grainger

Corry,

Thanks for the update, just to save any misconception I have no ties to the running of either of the web sites, therefore cannot effect what content is posted on either!

I can't hide the fact I tried to help set up the platform CMS for the MGCC Y Reg site now in use. I see where you elude to the Y Register advertising events on the IMGYR and not reciprocating event reports on the IMGYR.
Sadly this was one small reason why I halted my role with their site, because the Chairman & Deputy who presides over this matter calls their site "Complementry"...which means? Exactly blurred! The IMGYR site as an ex MGCC site has more historic reports & info related to the main MGCC club than their own official site. The issue is simple either have confidence in a product (the web site)and use it to full potential or concede by sharing info and duplication of posts.

I agree that this was a second issue, and also see your point of view of owners comments on anothers car. Simply put any Y Type that stands the test of time and may still be used is a credit to past engineering and I agree if another gave opinion on my car I may be little upset, however on flip side this is a BBS forum for owners to share thoughts and ideas, some of which will not be "shared view" surely it is for the a reader to make a judegement on what they feel is correct.
On finishing note, all owners should make an effort to get the magic 50 cars at one event, which only Jerry and the MGCC can hope to achieve, so perhaps plan a UK holiday Corry and pop over in 2014, to support this aim.
R E Knight

Sorry Corry,
I had thought that my comments that both websites complement one another would be sufficient. However, I am aggreived to note your comment -

'... that they (IMGY) help promote the last two years for you but you as an organiser havent filed any reports on the events'

Whilst I accept that I have not produced a report for this year's Spring Run - which will be done, though sadly I have no pics as my camera packed up. This is not the case for the events in 2010 which included The Spring Run and the Autumn Run, which if you bother to check the archive site you will come across.

Pehaps we can stop the points scoring and move on!

Sincerely

JERRY
J P BIRKBECK

I'm sure it goes without saying that any car irrespective of make and which is of the same vintage as the Y type needs some or a lot of restoration.A small fortune could be spent on this restoration.Some just want to keep the car roadworthy while others desire a concours restoration leaving the car as good if not better than new .
The latter car would surely command a better price but unlikely to achieve what had been spent in time and parts.
Hence you get what you pay for and quality will always fetch a premium .
This thing of talking down the prices does nothing to encourage owners to look after their cars let alone do a concours restoration.I have seen some cheap restoration jobs ,for example painting over rust,wrong parts and using the leftover living room carpet, does little foe classic car appreciation.
E Winters

Corry,

(I think) I now understand what you mean. You are talking about the "assesment" on this BBS of advertised cars.

Some time ago there was a thread on the TD-TF board about this so-called "car bashing". The question was, as you put it, "is it good manners to put your opinions on condition in to the public area".

As a seller I might not like it, as a prospective buyer I would. Especially with T-types, there are a lot of cars with "wrong", flowery eBay descriptions.

As long as it's done in a gentlemanly manner, I think it is good to discuss advertised cars online on it's virtues like condition, originality, colour(scheme), level of restoration etc. which all relate to price and desirability. Owners and buyers can learn from that.

Of course it should be considered "not done" to post damaging comments.
Willem vd Veer

Good Evening Jerry

I would like to address the points you seem to feel are being counted (well maybe you are I'm certainly not).

I looked back as you very kindly suggested me to do at http://www.mgcars.org.uk/imgytr/oldevents.shtml and I see no report there still. Perhaps Paul mislaid it and has let us down in which case please can you accept my most humble apologies and can I ask if you would email him and ask him to post the report? You have a better knowledge of what you and he have done as I have neither. While you are about that you can also send him something for 2011 and ask some of your fiends if they have photos they would kindly let you use due to you camera failure? I am sure they will all be very happy to share the joy of seeing lovely Ys on country roads.

The Autumn Run, yes that report and the pictures is great. That is organised though by Peter Sharp is it not?

Well, if it is point scoring you are after then lets say 1-0 to you if Paul has dropped the ball and I hope this is a wake up call to him too. NUDGE! Paul - you there?

Reason I picked your run Jerry is because you from past reports you have chosen some really beautiful places and so I was delighted that you were working with Paul. As a well travelled (in the UK) Ex-Pat I personally know many if not all the rods you picked and would like to say what a splendid run you do. Why more Y owners do not come out and enjoy what has to be posibbly some of the best scenery in the world with our great cars beats me. Your goal of 50 Ys should have been met years ago and trust me, were I living in the UK with my Y you would have had one more every year.

I am now really looking forward to seeing the 2010 report guys!

CG
Corry Grainger

Corry,
The event report for the MG Car Club Spring Run report is on the IMGYR site that you added a hyper link to and may be easily accessed by clicking the link in the final column furthest to the right in the table layout of the row for Spring Run 2010!

The IMGYR actually have all the spring run reports dating back to 2002 with the exception of 2011 if my memory serves me correct.
You point regards photos/Reports may be accessed as per link below, agreed the menu is a untidy on the site so easily missed perhaps!

http://www.mgccyregister.com/node/19019

The simple fact is by reviewing the two dedicated sites www.mgccyregister.com and www.mgytypes.org most content may be found on most Y Related issues. The problem you refer to is a simple issue of the Chairman/Secretary quoting their site is a "Complimentary Site."

The history is documented about how the IMGYR was the old MGCCY site prior to it being given up by the current incumbent Chairman/Secretary as they have said on another BBS in the archive (see copy of previous post below Asterisk).

In conclusion the arguments over the two site have been had the decision on both sides of argument have been had and it is TIME TO MOVE ON!

Nothing will change yet, as rightly put by the Chairmans post in a past attempt to "draw a line" under all this squabbling (It ain't healthy!), the committee of the MGCC Y Reg were re elected to their respective roles "Unchallenged" so it's not surprising result is it?, and on the whole they do a brilliant job, unpaid dedicated, professional and with Years of knowledge. But as the issues you refer to around Y politics, reflect comparisons uncanningly to the "Labour Party"

happY daYs, keep the postings up, good to have active forum or life would be boring.

On positive note good to see Michael Long stating the Y on IOW sold for a good price!

****Below post copied from thread titled Serious concern to Y Types Posted 01 April 2011 at 12:15:23 UK time

P W Vielvoye, Gloucestershire, United Kingdom

I think it is time clear up any misconceptions that this thread may have created. I have refrained from commenting in the past as I believe that the vast majority of Y owners are only interested in enjoying their cars and have no desire to concern themselves with political debate.

Firstly I can confirm that Paul resigned from the MGCC for his own reasons and consequently had to relinquish his position on the Y Register committee as treasurer. He did this with the utmost professionalism. We felt that if we were to have a website it needed to be under our own control so in the interest of all Y owners we had no alternative but to pass the ownership of our site on to Paul. We reverted to a micro site within the MGCC site.
Richard stepped forward and offered to develop a new site for us. We welcomed his youth and enthusiasm and co-opted him onto our committee. He soon had the structure of our new site set up and working but unfortunately his conception of the way forward was at odds with ours and he felt the need to walk away. We owe him our thanks for all the work he did and we regret that we have lost the chance to bring new enthusiastic young blood onto our committee.

Ted Gardner a member of the committee offered to take over the administration of the site. He had no experience but set about learning on the job and we now have an excellent site that we think is complimentary to the IMGYR site. It is young and has a long way to go but is improving all the time with regular updates and inputs. www.mgccyregister.com is a must for any Y owner to spend time on. This bulletin being part of the MG Enthusiasts site can also be accessed from our site and is always going to be the favoured form of communication between Y owners.

The MGCC Y Register held a very successful AGM at Kimber House last month where all committee members were unanimously re-elected. Neil Cairnes stood down as Register Scribe after 14 excellent years of service and Jerry Birkbeck has taken up the pen. Jerry is no stranger to the task and has previously contributed very entertainingly to a range of MG publications so I am very confident that the high standards set by Neil will continue. Neil was re-elected onto the committee as Technical advisor so you will still be hearing from him on our website where you can already find many of his past publications. He will certainly not be lost to the cause. The Registrar’s Report and my Chairman’s report can also be accessed from our site if you wish to check out our activities over the past year.
As for our direction and way forward we continue to champion the MG Y Type, its ownership and preservation in as many ways as we can. We sell a wide range of publications, accessories and spare parts from our shop, these can be accessed from our website and we are always looking to source none available parts. Our Spring Run and Dinner remains our premier event of the year but is now complimented by an Autumn Run held in the Bedfordshire area. We also have gatherings in the North and South at The Ripon Old Car Show in Yorkshire and new this year at the MGCC South West Auto Aero event in Somerset. Other events where Ys gather can be found on our events page. If there are any other ways that members feel we should be actively furthering our cause I would be very pleased to hear from them.

Membership of the MGCC is not a requirement to take part in any of our activities but should you be thinking on those lines please access their website and send for a no obligation “enquiry pack” at www.mgcc.co.uk

The Y Register will have a stand at MG Live Silverstone in June with a very interesting display. It will be manned by committee members over the whole 3 days, please do come and meet us and take advantage of our shop sales. I do hope that this has resolved any misconceptions and that we can now all get on with enjoying our Ys.
Peter Vielvoye
MG Y Register Chairman

****Copy ends*****
R E Knight

Whilst we are on the subject of IMGYTR and MGCCYTR it would make sense if the two clubs and the MGOCC could get together to create one database of known Y types - is this possible? Back to the original point on values my feelings are that a car should be enjoyed for what it is and its commercial value though important should be secondary - fortunately Y type values are not in the T type bracket or I would have been unable to buy and run one over the last 30 years but that's just my view.
D MULLEN

Sorry Richard - i failed to see any pont you were attempting to make there. A lot of copy that did not address anything Jerry nor I agree, in that if he enlists the help of someone to do something and offers something in return, both Jerry and I are happy that he will address that.

Dont know Jerry at all but let me ask you Jerry, did that do anything for you?

I look forward Jerry to reading you soon to be filed report of 2011 and all future years still wishing for this one thing I were in the UK.

CG
Corry Grainger

Corry,

Well firstly I was pointing out your inaccuracy that a report you said wasn't on the IMGYR was in fact there.

I also attempted to sum up that two sites can't compliment each other if the web administrators choose to upload the same content, which is what you ask for by asking for duplicate report of this years spring run to be added to the IMGYR when it already is on the other site. What purpose does this serve? When you can already access read/look and review the report! The fact Jerry says he will supply a report is kind, but you can read the report already of the 2011 spring run on link

http://www.mgccyregister.com/node/19019

If you point is about the MGCCYR using the IMGYR to advertise events and then not following up with Event reports then, this poses the question of what is Complimentary/what is the aim of their site. Surely a club site is to promote club content and their reports are rightfully on their site is it not?

The copy of my paste is to show how back on 1st April 2011, the chairman of the MGCC Y Register made a post on this BBS to try to draw a line under all the "Point Scoring" as Jerry quotes, yes clearly the statement failed to draw a line because in essence it sent out a mixed message.
Either way the two sites exist along side each other, why not just use and move on, rather than worry if one site mirrors the other by way to compliment?

Richard
R E Knight

I see the link now Jerry and Richard My apols. Missed it earlier in 2010 then.

But Richard you are the only one on this mission of complimentary. I dont care if they are or arent, This is where I come and I dont worry if it is or isnt "complementary" whatever that means.

Glad to catch up and shame your camera died Jerry

CG
Corry Grainger

In a small pain free momemt, I thought I would see what's happening in the MG Y world before I go back into a coma.

Quick update for anyone interested (or not). I am recovering from some spinal surgury so sorry I havent been around for a bit. This will continue for a few weeks yet.

Corry, I was worried as I read you couldnt find it and amplease you now have caught up with us. Thread has wandered from its original subject which seems addressed and that was interesting to see what people felt on that.

Keep well people, till later.

Paul
Paul Barrow

Hi Corry,

Report winging it way to the US for inclusion on the website. It's exactly the same content as on the Y Register site! I have suggested to Paul that he might consider putting a link through to the Y Register page so that folks can see the pics of the event. Now that would be a good example of 'working together'!
Isn't that what we are all about - pressing a button to go from one site to another is hardly a problem surely?

Dave's note about a database of known Y Types is of course on the Register site.

Going back to the point of this thread which I have rather hijacked and my apologies for that! I entrely agree with Dave that a car is there to be enjoyed for what it is and the commercial value should have little bearing on that. Moreover, if prices are realistic then it does get potential punters into the joy of ownership.

Let's be honest I am sure that nearly all of us did not acquire our Y's or whatever as an investment, It's just handy to know that you might get something back for the time and money invested when you come to sell. I think at best that in over 45 years of car ownership the best I have ever done is when I sold my first YA (JGC 208)for £1300 in 1979. We worked out that with purchase, repairs, running costs (inc petrol/oil/road tax andinsurance)etc, etc we just about broke even. Every other car including my second Y Type (RVW 761) I have lost money on and some hideously so!

Have a good day all as I consider delving out into the garage at some unthinkable time in the morning... or shall I go back to bed??? Yeah I'll opt for the latter.

All the best

Jerry
J P BIRKBECK

Jerry,

Smart thinking! The idea to post a link from Paul's higher ranking site will improve you search ranking, not sure though that Paul, would welcome a simple link which works negatively the other way, as explained here!

http://www.build-your-website.co.uk/website-links.htm
R E Knight

Thank you Jerry and Paul.

Look forward to you having more luck with your pictures in 2012 Jerry.

Hope you are getting better Paul - it is a big hill but we are pulling for you.

CG
Corry Grainger

Hi Corry

We are thinking of visiting Malta later this year. As a fellow Y Type owner I thought that it might be good to meet up. Perhaps you could forward me some details of the area where you live and some pics of your Y Type.

Look forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely

Jerry
J P BIRKBECK

Guys

Back to the original theme. Having spent the early part of today unable to sleep I have spend the last 45 minutes trawling the Car and Classic site which is very interesting.

Some of the prices for all types of Y are frankly ridiculous and when you see you how long they have been posted perhaps that tells one a story! A YB in Ireland for £25k - which was originally advertised in early April - and not a particularly attractive colour. A YB in the UK which is very nice and the asking price is £14,995 as well as a few others including a YA for £21.900. Then there are three YT's, two of which are in the US and are left hookers but priced at $79,500 (approx £50k) and another at $43,000 (approx £26k)there is a;so a YT in Hampshire, again trade, at £18950.

So yes prices are rising but are the cars selling and would you pay £25k for a YB? I certainly wouldn't and there are one or two really nice examples for around £11-13k which are probably every bit as good and sporting original colours.

The YT's are still pricey and whilst the £50k model in the US is fantastic it sports chrome wires, is l/h drive and is a bit over the top. You could pick up a really good TC, YA/B and an MGA for that kind of money provided that you had the cash, were mindful so to do and had the storage space.

It will be interesting to see how these prices pan out as the recession begins to really bite and folks disposable income goes down the lavatory!

Have a good day

Jerry
J P BIRKBECK

Jerry

A YB on ebay last week was bid up to £6700, but this was below its reserve and it was not sold. It looked good from the photos, but I know from experience that the camera can lie, even with high resolution images. Ebay photos are generally poor quality.

The YA on the Isle of Wight that I mentioned previously was sold for near its asking price, which I think was just under £9000. That car had had a lot of work done by the seller in the two years that he had owned it, but he admitted that more work was needed.

It just goes to show that asking prices are no guide to value. Anything is only worth what someone else is prepared to give you for it!

Mike
M Long

Hi Corry

Saw Jerry's post and I know you have registered your car with me, have you ever thought of adding it to Ys on Parade sometime too?

Thanks for your consideration,

Paul
Paul Barrow

Thank you Paul but not for now. Some people who know me say I should be more outgoing but I like things the way I am for now. Maybe later if I change minds. I like the lebel of contact I am at now with other owners though the site.

CG
Corry Grainger

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LANSDOWNE-LDM28-1947-MG-SALOON-TYPE-YA-GOLD-/130525278515?pt=UK_ToysGames_DiecastVehicles_DiecastVehicles_JN&hash=item1e63e9b133

Sticking to the original thread about cost of Y's seems even dinky toys have shot up with inflation. See item on ebay. Again no link or association to seller. Must say looks good.
R E Knight

Wow - £125!! I know the Gold with Red is supposed to be rare but ... even so!

The other very rare rendition by Lansdowne is the maroon one they did for the Wessex car club (see http://www.mgcars.org.uk/imgytr/models.shtml).

Still it is good to see Ys (even in model form) being appreciated and appreciating.

Thanks Richard,

Paul
Paul Barrow

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