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|I have Austin Princess calipers with Peugeot 505 cross drilled disks on my 1966 B and am looking for new pads. I searched archive and find that are most recommended Mintex 1144 pads but unfortunately are not available in my area. Can anyone advise some other manufacturers?|
|If you are refering to the Mintex part number of MDB1144 Totota Hiace III here are some crossrefrences to other manufactures|
Lucas GDB 233
Delphi (AP) LP199
Ferodo FDB 186
If you are refering to fast road pads of a similar number 1144 you will have to contact Mintex direct.
Mintex in the UK site is http://www.mintex.co.uk/index.jsp, or best email on firstname.lastname@example.org.
Hope this is of help
|1144 is the pad material. It is for fast road / track use. Standard pad material is still available from some motor factors here in the UK.|
If you have a Paypal account, I may be able to supply.
|Hi toni, I wouldn't bother with M1144 as good as it is unless you are going racing. The standard pad material will be good enough for normal use. All aftermarket pads have to perform to a fairly tight set of paramaters, the pad and the pad box will be marked with "R90", if it doesn't don't buy them. |
I used to work for Mintex as a test technician and the car brakes department used to spent a lot of time with the TUV inspectors carrying out the testing of all the different pads etc.
|I'd steer clear of the high performance Mintex pads. While they offer good performance, they peeled the chrome off the front wheels of my car. RAY|
|Well I am not looking for race pads since I am using car only on legal roads. At the moment I am using that come with brakes and are still with enough meat but are terribly noisy when they get hot (they are screaming so you can hear me over two blocks away). I got advice to put some cupper grease behind them but it does not help so I decide to buy new one. I try to get pads for Austin Prices from local supplier but he does not have database for “soooo” old cars so basically I am looking for cross-reference part number.|
|Toni, I can get Mintex standard road pads for you. If you have Paypal.|
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|Aren't the V8 pads the same as the Princess? I had a Princess 2200 many many years ago, much more recently discovering a set of pads identical to the V8, which I can only have long before I got the V8. I've had a number of cars over the years it is true, but I seem to remember Princess calipers being mentioned before for MGBs. V8 pads are handed in that there is an inside pad and an outside pad in each caliper, the difference is in the shape of the inner corners.|
|Paul, not V8, RV8 though.|
|Toni, they will be delivered to me tomorrow. I will pack and let you know the total.|
|Must have been another car I had that used V8 pads then! Quite possibly around the time the V8 was in production, way way before the RV8 was.|
|Toni, they are on their way!!|
|Race compound pads on a road car are a bad idea. I have set hardly used on a shelf somewhere that produced no appeciable effect when you pressed the pedal , before they warmed up. I found it made you drive like a Granny as you expected the car to just go straight on when you attempted to stop|
|Stan what material are they, and for which calipers?|
I may take them off your hands?
|I installed new Mintex pads and made some testing on up and downhill. Under heavy braking I noticed smell like that is melting something so I stopped to check pads and saw smoke coming out of pads. Is that because they are new or have I bigger problem?|
Oh and yes, terrible noise disappeared with new pads :)
|The smell and smoke is probably coming from the bedding in compound that the pads are coated with from the factory. Be careful to clean off any brake dust deposits as these can eat away at your wheels. I say this from experience. RAY|
|Toni, Thats not the way to bed in your new pads, you should use the brakes normally until the pads have full contact. I suppose you will have full contact now and you will have got rid of the "green fade".|
|Some recommend a bedding-in procedure, like this http://www.zeckhausen.com/bedding_in_brakes.htm, which seems pretty harsh to me (and doing it to a new car positively perverse). Personally the first test drive is to feel just how much pressure is needed, which usually *is* a bit more than normal of course, and then drive normally with a bit more circumspection regarding the vagaries of other road users than normal. You soon 'adapt' to the higher pressures, then as they bed in naturally you get used to the reduced pressure and improved braking without noticing it.|
|Could you please tell me about the Peugeot 505 discs you are useing....are they ventilated [air gap in the middle] and do they bolt on without modification. Also what thickness are they ? Thanks Renton Murray|
|R F Murray|
|I have Peugeot 505 discs on my V8. They are ventilated but they don't bolt straight on. You have to have them redrilled, and you MAY have to use 15" wheels to clear the caliper. I did. My brakes were bought from Hoyle Engineering. http://www.hoyle-engineering.co.uk/
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