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I am going to refit an unleaded head after it was skimmed. I have a Payen gasket set and was advised to use Wellseal on both sides of the head gasket on fitting. Should I spread it uniformly over the entire surface? Also what amount/depth of sealant should I be aiming for? I'm not sure what is too little or too much. |
ph barton |
A Payen head gasket should be fitted dry i.e. no jointing compound at all. Just make sure that the surface of the block and head are thoroughly clean and wiped with a degreasing agent before fitting the gasket. |
Iain MacKintosh |
Hey Philip, fit the gasket as above, torque to 40 pounds, start and run the engin until hot, let it cool and re-torque to 45. After 5-700 miles re-torque again to 45. You will be suprised at the amount of movementat each re-torque. Oh yeah, be sure that the studs/nuts are oiled as you don't want that friction to interfere with the clamping pressure reading. Good Luck! Tom. |
Thomas McNamara |
Don't use wellseal on the gasket face - it is coated already - you can use a tiny smear on the metal waterway rings if you want. Torque to 50 ft lbs - retorquing is not necessary or advised by Payen. |
Chris at Octarine Services |
Hi gut's Not too sure about head gaskets for all situations but I use for all gaskets good old common grease. I was told this by an old Guy who was into Austin 7's. Just rebuilt an engine and used grease on the head. Also a hotrod friend of mine always runs the engine without water for a few minutes and then re torques a bit like Thomas response above. |
TS KING |
Hi All I always use wellseal on the metal parts of the headgasket on Bs. Call it an insurance policy. I also torque B heads to 55# in stages. I do not retorque the composite black gaskets. Copper gaskets must always be re-torqued. With regard to dry running engines, I was told recently of a Hillman Imp engine builder who swore by that technique. If you do re-torque you must slacken each nut before retorquing, if you want to see how far the nut has rotated make marks on thge nut and head. Peter |
peter burgess |
Wow 55lbs ft!! I go to 30 and then 50 and am distinctly edgy at 50 as the stud feels about to shear. How many broken studs do you get going to 55 ?? |
Iain MacKintosh |
Hi Iain we only use old studs and only if they show no signs of necking. The torque wrench is calibrated. I have not snapped any originals studs this way. Occasionally one of the four longer studs will get a little elastic so I change it for a n other one. I torque 30/40/50/55 Peter |
peter burgess |
Peter, It's old studs that I use too and I was a little bit fearful of them but no problem. I had suspected that you must be using ARP. Your torque wrench is calibrated which mine is not but I used two torque wrenches just to be on the safe side. |
Iain MacKintosh |
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