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MG MGF Technical - !!! URGENT NEED FOR HELP !!! Oil filter stuck

Help !!! The oil filter on my TF is stuck and now pierced after my repeated attempts to remove it! (Bloody dealer tightening it too much!!)

The engine is cold. I have drained the oil and there are holes in the filter so I NEED to remove it! I have a proper filter wrench but it still didn't work. Bloody tight down there with the airco pipes and everything! Does anybody know how the hell I could do it now? WD-40 around the basde of the filter?

HEEEEELP!!!

Per
Per

Per,

don't panic.!! :-)

It's good that you have the oil out.
All you need now is a hammer and a large screw driver.

Use the hammer to drive the screw driver into and thru the oil filter. Make sure you make you do this near the top of the filter and then, just turn using the screw driver as a handle. Easy!!
Just have some rags handy when you make the holes as oil will come out of the oil filter. Let it drain then do the turning bit.

PS I have had to personnally do this as well and it does work.

Cheers,
Branko.
Branko

Thanks Branko, that worked a treat!!

An additional piece of advice, for anyone seeing this in the archives sometime in the future, is to make sure the screwdriver goes through the filter wall also on the other side to get maximum leverage:

Per
Per

Per,

>Use the hammer to drive the screw driver into and "thru" the oil filter<

:-)

Cheers,
Branko


Branko

Oh, and I'm glad it worked !!!


Cheers,
Branko.
Branko

Cheers Branko, in my panic I didn't read your first message properly. Car is fine now with a nice new filter and a few liters of Exxon's best!

Per :-)
Per

Dealers....

Anyone ever seen a torque wrench with Nm indication at a dealership? I havenīt They tighten all bolts (not that the oil filter is a bolt ;-) ) with their compressed air tools. Once bolted up, they start all over again, tightening it some more.
My uncle got stuck on the highway in Germany with a punctured tire and just couldnīt undo the bolts. The service guy pulled out an extendable wrench, the thing went up to, what, 80cm-1m. Thatīll be 250 € Sir ;-O.
bl**dy dealers.
On another occasion, we undid all bolts on my friends brand new alfa 156. Couldnīt get the wheel off. The weelhub was oxidised and hence completely stuck. Called out for the service guy and he pulled out a HAMMER. Oh well he said, they never lube the interface up at the factory, saves them money of lubricants and saves time in production. Hell another € 250,- with 10 big blokes standing around the car to fr**king change a tire. can you believe it.
Sorry, just needed to vent the story.

Aaah feels good.
David Peters

A screwdriver through the filter is a 'Standard Practice. The "Seizure" is normally due to the seals sticking, the fix for which is to lubricate them on assembly with some petroleum jelly (Vaseline).
A MG dealer in Zug, Switzerland uses a Torque Wrench to tighten wheel nuts and even uses the 'nip and tighten opposites technique' rather than 'round the clock'.
For a planned visit to the tyre shop, then I take my calibrated torque wrench and after a Service, the first thing to do is to remove the wheel nuts, clean the threads, lubricate and torque load.
Geoff F.
G. Farthing

Just about the most ignorant course of action I have ever seen occurred when I was living in Boston (USA). I took my Dodge to have new tyres fitted and was impressed to see a sign explaining that all wheels nuts were tightened to the manufacturer's torque using a torque wrench and it was inferred that this should be seen as a sign of the professionalism of the tyre reselling company. I was initially impressed until I actually watched them at work.
What transpired was as follows. When the wheel was fitted to the car, the air rattle gun was used to tighten the nuts (one can tell from the noise that it was set on maximum torque!). Then the car was lowered to the ground and the monkey with the professional torque wrench went around to each nut and applied torque with the wrench set at the "correct" value. Needless to say not one nut rotated even the smallest amount. The car was returned to me with an assurance that the wheel nuts were "torqued to manufacturer's specifications". When I explained that the operator had not followed the correct procedure with the torque wrench and that the nuts were in fact over-torqued I was dismissed as a complaining ignorant fool. Eventually the Dealer Principal accepted that I was correct and that the correct procedure was not being followed.
Ignorance in action as far as I was concerned.
d mottram


Brankoīs tip is fine as a last resort,a bit messy with oil running down the sleeve.... Another way to do it is to tap the top of the filter (the half-rounded outer tip of the filter) with a mallet,hammer or anything else that gives an impact and at the same time turn the filter body. The impact compresses and releases the rubber gasket and makes the filter come off. Also be aware that there is a very close filter thread that is possible to fit instead of the correct one! A genuine Rover dealer filter?? For more info se (as usual!) Dieters site about the filters and threads.

/ Carl.
Carl

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