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MG MGF Technical - 225bhp conversion for £400 (archive revisted)

Rob, Scarlet et al,

Back in June 02, 'Peter from Banbury' talked about a lovely project he did taking a Rover 620Ti engine out of a £400 auction car and sitting it in an F.

-- I have only just read about it.., but did it get anywhere? Have you seen it? Is there an article / pictures / figures / write-up / anything?

me.
Neil H

No results AFAIA were posted. At the time the general concensus of opinion was that the engine would be too heavy and upset the front to rear weight distribution of the car (which already has a rear bias).

I can't recall the specifics, but it seemed a possible, if drastic solution to the 'more power' question. It was one of those threads that i started reading initially, then moved on to other things before the debate had finished if you know what i mean. :-)

Might be worth checking the archives further Neil if you are interested, it would be nice to find out if the project went ahead and whether it was successful or not.

SF
Scarlet Fever

Young man..

I searched the archives and Peter and his car just seemed to die out.
Rob had some suggestions about MG World.. but I never read it.. so I am presumming in never met the printers.

Big engine / awesome power delivery is one of those things a lot of us want (for the fun reasons), but will probably never get round to.

£5k is definately not my bag.., but if I ever jump on the HGF bandwagon.., I'd love to find a £400 lump to stick in.

Be interesting to find out if that car ever made it as far as being wrapped round a drive.., or just sank in someone's driveway.
Neil H

Sadly, we simply didn't hear a great deal more about it Neil - which is a shame :o( I recall that one of Peter's friends coming onto the BBS and talking about the conversion - there were some teething problems with engine cooling IIRC. At a minimum, I'd have thought that one would need an enlarged aluminium rad to cope with the extra heat produced (a TF one would be an easy fit - but whether it would sufficient, I'm not sure)

Are you thinking along similar lines?
Rob Bell

What about the 2.3 litre all alloy unit found in the 623i? This must have used the PG1 gearbox.

Then again for a real power increase what about the 2.3 Honda VTEC unit from the Prelude?

Ian Taylor

I don't know much about that 2.3 litre Honda V6. Has it got a 60 degree Vee angle? If so, it is much more likely to fit in an F than the 90 degree Vee KV6...

Ian, the Darkside is indeed strong with you! ROFL
Rob Bell

Rob,

IIRC, the 623i Honda engine was/is a 4 cylinder engine... and also, in the dim and distant recesses of my memory, didn't the Honda engines in the 89-95 series Rover 216/416 use Honda boxes as they rotated in the opposite direction to the K series engined 214/414 which used Peugeot transmissions?
You might then, have to use the Honda transmission with the V-Tec engine.

Hope this helps - subject to verification !!
mike

The 2.3 in the 800 and 600s were V6s Mike (the 4 pot 2.3 litre VTEC used in the Accord is a different engine), but you're right about the 4 cylinder engines in the 200/400 cars - and about the direction of rotation! No idea whether the direction of rotation of the V6 is the same as the 4 cylinder Honda engines though - nor am I aware of the gearbox used on the 623/823s...?
Rob Bell

I don't think so Rob.

The 2.3 in the 600 was a Honda and am pretty certain it was a 4 pot.

The Honda V6 in the 800 was a 2.5 and later 2.7. Towards the end of the 800 series 2, the K series 2.5 V6 was fitted.
Patrick

Yikes - you chaps are right! The V6 was indeed a 2.5 litre. Sorry - brain fade on my part ;o)
Rob Bell

This thread was discussed between 05/12/2003 and 10/12/2003

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