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MG MGF Technical - air-con 5 yr MGF, advice needed pls

- apart from why the car was fitted with air-con in the first place, does anyone recommend any mobile air-con maintainers in the Oxfordshire area. Taking it to Kernaham in Witney is too much hassle.

TIA,

P1.8 TOY
Gary Sone

Gary

Check your local yellow pages for auto-air con repairers.

Ted
Ted Newman

Cheers, I just wondered if there was anything special - just did'nt want any tdoh turning up scratching his (or hers) head and then saying, tsk - tough job, probably cost ya £1,000 or more.
Gary Sone

Nothing special but the parts.
If you or somebody else need a second hand compressor or anything else then let me know.
Got still half of an MGF aircon in the cellar.
Dieter Koennecke

There isn't anything sophisticated or special about the MGF aircon unit, therefore it shouldn't hold any horrors for any respectable aircon service centre Gary.

Good luck!

PS Is your car a Japanese import?
Rob Bell

<Got still half of an MGF aircon in the cellar.>
Suppose it helps keep the beer cool,eh? ;-)
mike.
mike

thanks to all who replied - I'm still undecided. It does appear to be a Jap import - does this make me a lesser human being now ;-)
Gary Sone

Gary,

What is wrong with your aircon? Does it not work at all? Does it just need topping up? Does the light work in the Aircon switch? If not then the gas is below the correct pressure assuming all else is OK.

I have mine topped up each year for a minimal cost by my local aircon man (Industrial/domestic and automotive). My MGR dealer charged me £110 to top it up. The local guy charges £35 depending on how much gas it needs!

Bruce
Bruce Caldwell

What I forgot to say was that this is what I did when my Jaguar needed the aircon sorting - the dealer told me to go that route because that is what they did - contract out to air-con specialist NOT read the Yellow Pages!

Ted
Ted Newman

>Suppose it helps keep the beer cool,eh? ;-)
*g* unfortunately it only takes space away for more cans.
Dieter Koennecke

>>It does appear to be a Jap import - does this make me a lesser human being now ;-) <<

Nah - I only made the observsation because so few UK-spec cars are so equipped.

IMO aircon is a must when driving roof down on the French south coast/ Montecarlo - boy do you get brioled without it in traffic!!! LOL
Rob Bell

The Air-con light does come on, and I can hear the unit working! - but the air is not that much colder compared to when its not on (even after a 15 minute drive) - I think it can wait until the next service - it still makes me chuckle to think it has air-con :-)

I've fitted a Kenwood CD player now with MP3 and converted my CDs to MP3 - you can get on avg 10 albums on one CD buy converting to 128KB MP3S (and I cant notice the difference...)

Life in the MGF is FAB

P 1.8 TOY (which would be illegally spaced in the *real* world ;-)
Gary Sone

Yep,

Sounds like it has slightly low gas pressure. A top up from any aircon man with the correct gas, R134A I believe should do the trick.

Bruce
Bruce Caldwell

Gary,
If you can't understand why the car was fitted with it in the 1st place, you obviously don't have a requirement for it -- so why go to the expense of getting it fixed.
Unusual as it may be on a F/TF, I have just bought a TF160 and had Aircon fitted as an option as I see it an an essential item.
Steve
S Greenhalgh

Hello there

After following the responses on this thread, I would also ad another maybe related question. The airco in my 97 VVC has the same bad working condition as the car from Gary, so this can hopefully easily be sorted. But when I try to start the car (only when the engine is cold) the engine starts badly and as soon it runs (on very low revs) I hear the fan switches on which will stay one for at least a mile. Leads, coil and plugs have been replaced and don't make any difference.

Thanks Marten
marten

Marten,

Assuming you are hearing the engine compartment fan switching on, not the fan at the front of the car, then I would guess you have a problem with the engine compartment temperature sensor. If the ECM senses a hot temperature within the engine compartment then the fan turns on and runs for three minutes or until the sensor detects an acceptable temperature. Suggest you check the sensor which is found on the RH side at the top of the engine compartment ie behind the water tank and above the engine near the engine cover. Remove the grille to see it.

Only other fault I can think off is the ECM itself. I hope for your wallets sake it isn't that!

HTH

Bruce
Bruce Caldwell

Thanks Bruce,

But I'm afraid I replaced the sensor already so I think there's a lot of spending going to be done. Starting with consulting my dealer and they don't come cheap here in Holland as probably in the UK so it's on Dutch treat for myself. :0(

Cheers Marten
marten

Marten,

It could also turn out to be a faulty connection to the MEMS ECU. Fingers crossed. Let us know the outcome because this case is unusual.

Bruce
Bruce Caldwell

Gary, consider selling the A/c as a kit, ie remove the whole shooting match in exchange for £xx's and the non A/c parts to refit.Problem solved and some spare cash ;-)
Mike.
mike

For Sale: - one air-con kit....

Mike, thanks never thought of that, but having experienced a lot of rain recently and then the sun comes out the inside temperature rises but its not sensible to drive with the roof down now makes me understand why – so I’m going to re-gas. I’m going to miss the next Oxford meet again :(
Gary

Gsry, if you reconsider let me know have some £'s waiting:->
Mike.
mike

Hi,
Read with interest your comments on the aircon - here its a necessity but I have just discovered a water leak just behind it.
Its not the aircon itself but every time I wash the car or it rains water trickles in. It seems to be from the big black air intake box in front of the apssenger window.
Anyway I tried to remove the aircon - took out the passenger seat (for more work space), glovebox, then two screws I could see holding the aircon to the front wall, plus the large circular clamp. It moved a bit but something was holding it - possibly some pipes (gas fill, etc) in the front boot area.
I have ordered a workshop manual but they are apparently being re-printed but I hope to get soon.
Meanwhile, has anyone removed the aircon and can give me some tips.
Thanks in anticipation...Brian (1998 VVC)


Brian

Brian,

Happy Jubilee!

It sounds like you have the well known heater box seal leek. Check out the archives of this section. Search on the phrase 'heater box replacement' for a thread posted last August. Near the bottom of the thread is a description from Dave mgf tech on how to replace the seal.

All the best

Bruce
Bruce Caldwell

Hi Bruce,
Thanks for the lead - I found the info you said and its very interesting. I did not know its a common problem?
Unfortunately I cannot get to the screws under the passenger inside (the aircon is in the way) otherwise the Dave mgf tech soultion sounds perfect for me.

Perhaps Dave is listening and could give me some pointers!!!

regards...Brian

Brian

Brian,

Haven't seen Dave on here for ages. I've sent you an email.

Bruce
Bruce Caldwell

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