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MG MGF Technical - Cam belt part number

Please mates, in order to buy and have it replaced I need to know the MG Rover part number of the cam belt for my F 1.8 mpi 1997. Any other part that require to be replaced with the belt? Many thanks in advance. Best.
Andy.
Andrew Machmar

I don´t know the answer but this may help you. I recently changed my F´s belt and the people at the garage commented that all the 1.8 Rover engines use the same cam belt.
C. Chapman

>>Any other part that require to be replaced with the belt?

It's almost become a standard precaution these days by respected specialists to replace the cam belt tensioner at the same time as the cam belt. The cost of the part is small, but the effect of a failed tensioner is dramatic!
Dave Livingstone

It's a lot easier for all when you register to the BBS and get access to the now 7 or 8 years BBS archives.

Anyway, check http://www.mgfcar.de/k_engine/cambelt_mpi.htm
Notice, it's no brief instuctions there !

Far below you'll find the collection of parts available.
See for none automatic tensioner parts only, cause the 97 made MGF has the manuel tensioner.
Dieter

>> It's almost become a standard precaution these days by respected specialists to replace the cam belt tensioner at the same time as the cam belt. The cost of the part is small, but the effect of a failed tensioner is dramatic! <<

Couldn't agree more Dave - especially having seen the state of Don Kimberley's engine when his tensioner failed: http://www.mgf.ultimatemg.com/group2/common_problems/CoH/tensioner_failure.htm

Regarding manual and automatic tensioners - it is indeed well worth checking which version you have, as this influences the part you have to order. Check the engine number - if 18KFJ31 153993 or higher, then your engine will have an automatic tensioner.

-Static tensioner belt (A111E6044S £24.33) prior to Oct 98 - prior to engine number 153993

-Automatic tensioner belt (A111E6246S £25.74) from Oct 98 - after engine number 153993

Your car may be a 97, but are you 100% sure that the engine has never been changed? Never assume anything is always the safest policy.

Good luck

(PS the prices are a couple of years out of date - but they'll still be in the right 'ball park')
Rob Bell

Hmm - alternative part numbers for that manual-tensioner cam belt:

Rover: CDU2749
Unipart: GTB801238xs
Rob Bell

>18K4FJ31 153993
leads to MPI's made in September 1998, likewise VIN XD5008xx

Rob, did you hear also anything about the 18K4Kxxyy zzzzzz VVC ?
Dieter

The comprehensive list of engine numbers to which the tensioner change date applies is listed below:

18K4FJ31 153993
18K4FJ32 147263

18K4FJ78 151555
18K4FJ79 153785

18K4FJ89 146503
18K4FJ90 141815

18K4FL66 148135
18K4FL67 665464

18K4KL36 118709
18K4KL37 102149


The last two engine numbers apply to the VVC engines Dieter. :o)
Rob Bell

Can you see the engine number without removing the hatch?

I am ordering a roll hoop from mike satur, and intend to also get the stuff needed for the 10000km service.

They have some 'life saver' bolts for the 1.8. (non-VVC) are they worthwhile? How hard is the change? Is it just to replace the bolts with the cam-fixing-tool as only support?


//Oskar
O Sander

>Can you see the engine number without removing the hatch?

Yes, if the paper sticker didn't get lost.
http://www.mgfcar.de/k_engine/index.htm
Instructions from Branko on site may help, if the sticker is missed.
Dieter

Dead easy to change the 4 bolts. The pack from Mike comes with instructions AND a small useful bottle of Vanchem locking fluid. This is also very useful when relocating the big pulley bolt.... If you have a vice,put one of the old bolts secure and apply force with a large spanner. Notice where and how easy the bolt shears ! Shame on Atlas. / Carl.
Carl

Oooops! The 4 bolts are for the VVC, 1.8Mpi are the same but only 2 bolts and washers + bottle of fluid. / Carl.
Carl

Hang on,

According to the sticker on the cambelt cover, my engine is 18K4FJ32 432004!

This sounds strange, if the car is a -97, doesn't it?

I wonder if my car has a dark history! Can someone shed some light on this please?



cheers
Oskar
O Sander

Can't comment on your car's history, but it appears that you've got a pretty recent engine in your car - possibly following a catastrophic head gasket failure?
Rob Bell

Well, it's a -97 (supposedly) with VIN AD021410.

Alright, it must mean that the little old lady got a HGF driving to church one sunday morning, nothing to worry about.

How old is can this engine be then?

I guess this also means I should cancel my order from mike satur on the cam-belt and the manual tensioner? (not the same part number, right?)

Should i trust the sticker on the cam belt cover?

I guess the upside is that the cambelt is not that old....


Cheers
Oskar

O Sander

Double check the engine number - it will be stamped on the block, near the main bearing ladder. Hopefully Dieter has a picture of the are concerned? But yes, if the number you've found on the cam cover is correct, you'll have a 26mm wide belt and an automatic tensioner.
Rob Bell

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