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MG MGF Technical - Compliance Wahers the facts please

I've not fitted the rear compliance washers yet.

However I would like an honest report from anyone who has fitted them as to the improvement (or not). Objective reports only please ie not "I've got to praise them as I was silly enough to spend time and money fitting them".

Also Whats the recomended rear toe settings after fitting compliance washers?

Cheers all in advance.

Russ
Russ Fitz

Ok so the thread should read "compliance washers....." doh!
Russ Fitz

Russ,

If you don't already have a set I have a pair for Ģ5 (including postage) if you want them.

Gaz
Gaz R

Gaz

Thanks for the offer. Already got them, why you not use them? Any info to share?

Cheers

Russ
Russ Fitz

Russ Fitz Bucks,

Sound like a champagne drink!

Compliance washers are well worth the money in my opinion. I have them fitted and when I fitted them I could see why they were necessary. There were big gaps either side of the bushes. The washers take up the play and stop your rear suspension from weaving about. Fiddly to fit and you need to be strong to get the nuts undone in the first place.

I set my toe in to be 5 minutes front and back. If you fit the washers yourself make sure your suspension is pretty well in the normal running position when you tighten the nuts ie don't tighten them with the suspension hanging down while on an axle stand. Let them settle for a couple of days and then get your tracking done.

The difference is marked.

Consider a splitter as well if you haven't got one already. It makes the car very stable at speed. As they say 'I wouldn't leave home without one'.

cheers

Bruce
Bruce Caldwell

The reasons for fitting these spacers are covered in http://www.mgf.ultimatemg.com/upgrading_bushes.htm

Yes, they make a difference - but really only noticable in fast road/ track situations where you want the rear end to be as predictable as possible. With the standard bushes, there is a significant amount of passive rear-steer. This is largely irradicated with the spacers fitted.

Yes, definitely recommended - especially for the low price that B&G sell 'em for. Another option are PU bushes - as you'll see on the above link. A more expensive option maybe, but almost certainly worth while. You'll need to have a nice chat to Mike Satur about these ;o)
Rob Bell

Russ,

As Rob points out the alternative to the compliance washers are poly bushes. I had these fitted all round before I got round to fitting the washers ... hence no longer needed.

Gaz

Gaz R

I have been trying to get the tools together to fit the compliance washers but have got stuck on getting the right socket.

Dieter describes an 18mm socket and I see that I need a deep one to reach the nut properly - I cannot find one of these anywhere, 18mm seems to be non-standard.

Is this right or is it actually a 19 or 17mm size?

Thanks,

Graham.
Graham


Hi Graham,
it should unfortunatly be 18 mm :(. They do turn up here and there at diff. places and are really a p.i t. a. as this is not a very common size , not even in Metric-land... Anyone else noticed that it is more and more common that both bolts and nuts have stepped down one size on the heads but the metric windings are the same size ? I.e. an old 17 mm bolt and nut now can be taken down to 16 mm ,sometimes both at the bolt and nut end ? Donīt forget a good Poly-grip or plumbers eq. to keep a steady grip around the rear tie bar in order not to disturb the front rubber of the bar if this one isnīt changed at the same time !

Carl.
Carl

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