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http://www.prototyperacing.com/k20kit.htm

drewling yet?
David

Mmm The dyno graph shows power at the wheels add 30% to that figure...? Vroom
tim woolcott

Tim, if you read the text they suggest 'add 30 hp' for the flywheel figure, not 30 percent. In any event, why guess at an irrelevant unsubstantiated figure when the 'at-the-wheels' figure is available and so much more meaningful ? Flywheel guesstimates are the provionce of Maxpower and bar-room braggers IMO.
David

Should be "drooling" though *LOL*
david

>>In any event, why guess at an irrelevant unsubstantiated figure when the 'at-the-wheels' figure is available and so much more meaningful ?<<

Fair comment David (S) - both figures ought to be presented. One thing I would say though, the flywheel figure is easier to understand and compare (limitations of 'guestimating' transmission losses aside) with manufacturer's original press literature claims of performance - and hence its popularity.

David (P-N), great site - that Honda engine transplant looks very nicely engineered :o) Wondering if it'll fit an MG? ;o)
Rob Bell

David S

Sorry didn't read text .... an extra 30bhp means there's a very efficient transmission in there.

I only refer to the 'irrelevant' flywheel figure as this is easier to understand against production car manufacturers figures.

Many people do not understand that an MPi is rated at 102bhp at the wheels when quoted 118 (at the fly) by the manufacturer. I did not know this some years ago and so I assume other in BBSland are the same. I refer this quessimated figure not for Maxpower and bar-room braggersman but for these less technically minded as a simpler comparison.

tim woolcott

You beat me to it Rob.... My point exactly
tim woolcott

What a visit to the Technical Elise BBS isn´t all good for!

I´ve got another URL of a German company offering a VW V5 transplant into an Elise/Exige. £££...Guess I´ll just stick to a head porting job next year. And an S2000 test drive *LOL*


cheers,
David.

BTW: anyone read the MG world article on the Turboed Aussie *F* 163Bhp at the wheels.
David P-N

>>BTW: anyone read the MG world article on the Turboed Aussie *F* 163Bhp at the wheels. <<

I haven't got my copy yet - been looking forward to reading this article!

Reminds me of the T16 Turbo MGF that someone mentioned on this BBS a month or two back.

I think that the K16 Turbo is a non-starter in the F - but maybe someone will get some ideas as to how to perform this conversion that overcomes the limitation. (I mentioned this to Jason @ Midland MGF who seemed keen on the idea! LOL)
Rob Bell

Rob,

They used
1. a 1994 Subaru WRX turbocharger, (mounted underneath the engine block, lower than the sump! (like Porsche--> need of extra scavenger pump for oiling)
2. Subaru liquid to air intercooler (mounted in the boot!!!)
3. a Ford (Falcon?) transmission cooler as additional heat exchanger.

Judging from the article they had quite a few problems to overcome. definitely no easy job.


Might take this subject to new thread,

cheers,
David.
David

Interesting! Thanks for the info David :o)
Rob Bell

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