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MG MGF Technical - Remote Blipper wanted

Any of you enthusiasts out there got a Remote Blipper for sale? I can get one new but I'm kind of opposed to extortion, and that's what MG Rover are doing charging those horrible prices for them new.
Alternatively, if anyone can correctly identify the round transistor marked RFM P1239 (which apparently boosts the final signal) I can probably fix my uncooperative one.
I know I will have to get it reprogrammed, but that would have to happen anyway.

Thanks.
Grant Vowles

There's one on ebay at present, currently £50.
chris

Thanks Chris, I really appreciate the post.

My problem is, I can't find the damned thing!

Tried all the search strings I could think of, in Motoring and general, and all I seem to come up with are 1/43 scale models.

Bear in mind this is more a reflection on my lack of familiarity with E Bay.... there must be a knack.

Thanks again
Grant Vowles

Apparently Landrover ones are the same but cheaper (search the archives for landrover and skip any HGF threads for the part number) You will still have to get it programmed by rover, so the cost saving might not be as much as you had hoped.

Will
Will Munns

Think this is the one..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2402628128&category=10414

Cheers,

Russky
R Goodman

Geez, if it's £50 on eBay how much do Rover charge then??
Colin

My last L/rover replacement key was £90+
Mike

F***ing Hell !!! How much ?!?! Do the police know??

Colin

I have one which I want to get re-programmed. Can anyone tell me what is procedure and how much, presumably at a Rover garage? Can anyone else do it? Do they need a working one to copy, or can they use a spec number, or what?
T Green

>Can anyone else do it?
Nope, Rover only

>Do they need a working one to copy
They need the car, so you have to have a working one to get it there!

>or can they use a spec number, or what?
They use the testbook to add the handset
Will Munns

>>Alternatively, if anyone can correctly identify the round transistor marked RFM P1239 (which apparently boosts the final signal) I can probably fix my uncooperative one.<<

Grant, what's wrong with your current blipper? If it is a question of poor range, and intermitten operation, then the problem might not lie with the transponder at all - but with the alarm's reciever arial.

There's more info on this on Stefan's site: http://www.ultimatemg.com/mgf/faq.htm, on the MGF FAQ and Dieter's site: http://www.lame-delegation.de/mgf-net.de/alarm_blipper/eblipper.htm
Rob Bell

Rob.
The rotten blipper only modulates the final coded signal at about 1/4 of the amplitude of the working device. We checked the circuit board and repaired any suspect solder joints, including the antenna, and when we did a direct comparison between the good and bad blippers, this part was the only one not working properly.
Stuck as we are in Tasmania, we tend to be a bit indipendant with repairs, and we have some very talented technicians here. I have yet to see anything they couldn't fabricate or repair given sufficient time, information and incentive!
Grant Vowles

Ah ha! Okay, sounds as though you've got things well under control there then Grant! LOL
Rob Bell

To access the blipper on ebay go to www.ebay.co.uk and then type in MGF into the "what are you looking for box". This will produce a listy of items for sale, including the blipper, postage to Oz should be reasonable as the item is very light.

Good luck
chris

I never fail to be impressed with Google....
http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cache:2tDCMCgSn-oC:www.rfm.com/products/data/rp1239.pdf+RFM+P1239&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

If you stick in the part number it gives you a link, unfortunatly you can't view the link, but google will translate the PDF into HTML, which you can view

Hooray!
Will Munns

After a search on the web I found this reference:

RF monolithics, inc RP 1239 SAW resonator
http://www.rfm.com/products/data/rp1239.pdf
Does it look like the thing in the blipper?

Good luck, Peter
Peter

Odd, I couldn't see that pdf earlier, but now it works... (the google site is the html'ed version of the same site)

Will
Will Munns

Which frequency do the blippers use "down under" - in the UK they are on 433 (point 375?) MHz, whereas they're on something different in Japan I seem to remember...

Looks like its on 315MHz from the datasheet :-)

Can you get one from someone like Dick Smith's - I don't know if there's one on Taz, or if you'd have to order from the "mainland"

Neil.
Neil

you might find that you can only get them in packs of 1000, but even then it might be cheaper to do that than buy a blipper from MGR! (if this happens then I suggest going directly to the co. and saying your evaluating the device for use in yak yak yak, and can they send you some samples)

Will
Will Munns

Neil is correct; having a Jap re-import with only 1 fob I have totally failed to locate a spare to have reprogrammed. I suppose I ought to make sure the security code I have actually works!
David

If the landrover ones are the same, are then any other models that use the same blipper?

If so a trip to the local scrapyard could be worthwhile...

Colin.
Colin

Will and Peter, outstanding work!
I had tried to find a reference to the part number without success, but your links are definitely the item I am looking for.
I am assuming that the blipper works on 315.0 MHz as the part number is for that frequency. I would have to check with the technician to be sure. We have a Dick Smith here, he will get a visit tomorrow. Maybe this will help the glazed expression I got from him the other day.
I believe the blippers are common with Rover 200/400/600 series and the Land Rover Discovery. I have dropped a few queries to local wreckers, but noone seems to have one (yet).
As a matter of interest I have tried the unlock code (many many times) without success, including the "ammended" code mentioned in the archive. Something else to check with the dealer (at the other end of the island) if I do have to get a spare and have it reprogrammed.
Grant Vowles

Hi Guys,

Just spoken to my local Rover dealer here in blighty, with the following costs:

New Key Fob : £51.13

Re-program the set : £34.66

And, with that I went on to chat to Midland MGF and I've ordered myself a keyfob for £15.

Just thought I'd let you lot know before jumping in to the eBay environment...

Colin.

Colin

Colin, Do I assume you mean a secondhand unit that will need re-programming? If so, it would probably be better to go for a new one, or does that need progamming too?
T Green

TG - whether new or s/hand it will always need re-programming to suit the car, via Testbook
David

TG, as David says, unfortunately the new one needs programming as well (along with all units you posess).

Colin.
Colin

Well the saga continues.
The part I need, a SAW resonator, is available in lots of frequencies. The majority available here are around the 304 to 308 MHz range, and the 315 MHz SAW I need isn't easily available here.
My very understanding techie here is attempting to source the part... we may have to go to the manufacturer for it. All this trouble for a 50p part.
At least these things can be repaired if you persevere.
Thanks for all your help so far.
Grant Vowles

check e.bay out there are 3 for sale, go to automotive then type in mgf you will find them there......
p atherley

Grant,
I take it you've tried:

Werner Schyns
Megtech Pty Ltd.
P.O. Box 193 Caringbah 1495
New South Wales
Australia
P: 61 2 9531 0233
F:61 2 9531 0266
werner@megtech.com.au

for a "sample"?

Certainly UK distributers will often let you have a sample if you can spin them a yarn about prototyping a small product with one :-)

Neil.
Neil

Neil.

I have not tried Werner, though I will next week, thanks for the tip.

P.Atherly, thanks for the pointer, though I suspect that the frequency of the Australian keyfobs are different from the UK ones, and I will have problems converting them. (I will probably have to fit a SAW resonator of the frequency I am already trying to obtain!)

I will stay in touch as the project continues.
Grant Vowles

This thread was discussed between 10/02/2003 and 14/02/2003

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