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MG TD TF 1500 - Caster angle -TF
The Workshop manual provides a caster angle spec of 2 degrees +/- 1/2 degree but no mention of how to measure this, and going back a few years i can find to thread on this. Have any members measured or adjusted this angle? Also, I set the camber to 0 degrees and Toe-in to 0 as specified but have since seen Toe-in recommended as 1/8 inch in some threads. Where did the change come from? Thanks in advance. Rorry |
Rb Harding |
Toe-in to 0 was for bias-ply tires, radials need a slight toe-in, 1/8" is most common in my research. How do you set camber and caster? Isn't that a design function? Peter |
P G Gilvarry |
There is a tool available for measuring castor angle. It may be a matter of design, but after an accident or just a hard knock its something to check - and on a previously owned vehicle you never know what has happened to it. Dave H |
Dave Hill |
Hmm
I would have thought the toe specs would have been round the other way Peter Toe in for conventional Xply and 0 for radials The camber and castor are built in to the chassis design They can be measured acurately on a wheel aligner Some modifications can be made to adjust camber but castor is basically set Some minor differences to equal the readings side to side can be carried out by loosening suspension/shocker mountings and pulling things around and retightening in a different spot but usually if it's far out it means something is bent A good wheel alignment check on a modern machine will tell the story as it will measure wheel setbacks and track misalignment etc Worth having done just to check and you will get a readout showing where it's out ,,if it is out Shouldn't cost much just for a readout----Don't get too fussy though, they never were perfect Basicaly if camber and toe are set and it steers straight I wouldn't worry about castor unless it's pulling to one side Rorry, what method did you use to adjust your camber cheers willy |
William Revit |
Thanks for the answers; as I suspected the caster is probably not adjustable.
I asked about this as the mechanic doing the safety check said the steering does not return to center by itself when driving. I had set the clearances to tight on the steering box which I have since corrected, but wanted to check everything before going back for a re-check. As suggested I will also dial in a bit of toe in. To measure camber I made a small jig out of a piece of straight hardwood with 2 small threaded rods that contact the rim at 2 points at the top and bottom positions. The rods are long enough that the block of wood clears the knock-off. I cannot seem to upload photos as the files are always too large. To measure the angle I used a free inclinometer app on my phone. Rorry |
Rb Harding |
Everything I have read is toe-in for radials, 1/16 to 1/8" Bias ply is Zero! |
P G Gilvarry |
Photos re-sized so they can be uploaded.
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Rb Harding |
On my TF1500 I have radial tyres and zero toe in, which has worked well for the last 14,000 miles without loss of self-centering or undue tyre wear (scrubbing of tread). In fact tyre wear has been minimal and even over that distance. Tyres are Michelin XZX. |
N D Wallace |
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