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MG TD TF 1500 - Fixing the gearbox - not the usual way

While I'm learning about our cars I found something is different from the original. So I show a picture and later I'll have a question.



Bela

Here is a detailed picture. Has there been something at the gearbox which is absent (eyelet, broke off)?

Bela

It appears that someone cut the rear mount off. They are repairable, here's a picture of a repair from the archives, under "Trans tail housing repair or?" PJ





Paul161

Paul,
That was my repair. Heres's a photo of what it looked like beforehand.
Regards
Declan

Declan Burns

Here's the sequence

Declan Burns

Here's the sequence

Declan Burns

Next step

Declan Burns

Finished

Declan Burns

I was kinda surprised that they cut the tabs off the sides on Bela's transmission. He might have to get another tail case to make it right. I have seen them on ebay once in a while. PJ
Paul161

Thank you both for the pictures.

The next time I have to live with that situation - it works. If I need a "new" gear box I will look at the mounts.
Bela

Bela,
I have two gearboxes here if you run into trouble.
Regards
Declan
Declan Burns

Bela,
It looks like the bolts are perpendicular to the frame. Do they only hold the "rubber" mounts to the frame?? Or are the they actually threaded rod that goes into the trannie? How are the rubber mounts held in place to the trannie ??

Steve
Steve Wincze

I am yet to get to the gearbox stage of rebuilding my TD which is in lots of bits.

I saw this thread and decided to check the pictures of my gearbox - looks just the same with the eyelet/web broken off.

So, many thanks for the solution shown I will also have to drill across the remaining webs to modify the fixing down mechanism.

Mel Pascoe

Clear evidence of a design error if it breaks that often.
Mine's still intact but very worn out.
Rgds, Mike
Mike Fritsch

Mel

I'll try to get additional pictures.
Bela

Mike wrote

Clear evidence of a design error if it breaks that often.

In fact it seems worthy to inspect the u bolts of the rear axle from time to time. A move there provides an overload of the mounts.
Bela

"Breaks that often"? The cars are 70 years old...no telling the abuse they have suffered at the hands of well meaning, but inept "mechanics". Seems a bit harsh to totally trash the engineers of these cars. When you consider the numbers produced this does not seem like the failure rate is that extreme. My opinion only. Regards, tom
tm peterson

Steve wrote:

It looks like the bolts are perpendicular to the frame

No they are not. There is an angle. I use a picture of Declan to show where the holes (blue squares) are drilled.

I guess the pre owner has used bushings of a BMW rear axle like the next posted image.


Bela

the next picture

Bela

I have exactly the same problem with my Y type discovered last night, the grey matter worked overtime during the night and I came to Declan's solution but further thought I can see one or two refinements, I will post if successfull.
Richard Verrill

This thread was discussed between 30/03/2016 and 11/04/2016

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