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MG TD TF 1500 - Lots of TF questions

Hi Guys

Lots of questions came up while I was rebuilding the body and trying to get panel alignment correct.

With reference to the pictures.

1 Just wondering why there is a cut out in the black panel behind the pedals.

2 What is the circular hole for in the tower that connects to the firewall and which direction do the bolts go.

3 and 4 My radiator appears to be a bit too high as seen in picture 3 and too far forward as seen in picture 4 re the connecting hole.
I have connected the rad correctly with the rubber rings below and on top of the bracket. But I don't see how it's possible to move the rad other than the angle with the 2 supporting brackets.

5 While I was attaching the firewall with the flat headed bolts the 2 bolts at the top appear to go directly through and connect to the support bracket. Is this correct and what is the bracket with the 4 holes in it for.

Thanks for any help you can give.
Darryl

D Lamb

5 While I was attaching the firewall with the flat headed bolts the 2 bolts at the top appear to go directly through and connect to the support bracket. Is this correct and what is the bracket with the 4 holes in it for.

D Lamb

You may get some better answers, but these are mine.
1. Don't know!
2. I think on my car that was a hole that the accelerator pedal mounting bracket fitted to.
3. Is the radiator support bracket that bolts to the chassis the right way round? There are holes at the front and at the back for the starting handle to pass through - the curvy side goes to the front, and the side with straight sides goes to the back.
4. Ditto, though I also had to force mine to fit at the top.
Dave H
Dave Hill

#1 may be a mod to help with gearbox removal if I am reading the photo correctly.
The four holes in bracket 5 could be for radio or heater mounting??

Matthew.
M Magilton

Thanks Guys

The cut out I am talking about is in either side where the black panel attaches to the towers and firewall.

Good to here you took the same approach Dave. I initially drilled at an angle to avoid the bolt installed by Hutson under the wood but it was so wrong. Now need to fill those holes!

Pretty sure I have the rad right as it's a confusing fix and I researched in detail but will check again.

So Matthew those brackets arnt used to hold on the dash.

Think you may be right about the excellerator pedal I have yet to install it and it's the same on both sides for left and right hand drive.
D Lamb

I think the suggestion about a mod to assist gearbox removal is correct.
I don't remember any brackets under the dash with holes like those. I will look at my car tomorrow to check. Good suggestion that they could be for a heater - I've seen them fixed right up behind the dash out of sight, though I fixed mine much lower down for ease of access.
Dave H
Dave Hill

1. Looks like its for the starter motor.
Dan Nordstrom

Dave and Matthew I don't understand the gearbox removal suggestion. But bare in mind I am looking only at the modified panel. Will you explain this is a little more detail.
Thanks
D Lamb

Removing the engine and gearbox forwards through the bonnet opening it can be difficult to get the gearbox past that front bulkhead. The removable panel makes the job easier.
Dave H
Dave Hill

The brackets with the four holes are standard parts - I have them on my car too.
Dave H
Dave Hill

Thanks Dave

Yes I understand but the cut out is the one the arrow points to in the pic. Just seams unnecessary.

So which will you get a radio or a heater!

D Lamb

Darryl,
The bodies arrived at the factory without that panel attached ( see Fig R2 in WSM ).
The body was fitted to the chassis and that bolt in the cut-out located it. When the body was shimmed true then the panel was fitted.
The heavy brackets were for the very heavy power pack for valve radios.
I don't know how far on you are but make sure the harness goes above the roll bar. I rebuilt mine in 1975 and ran it below. About 15 years ago I had a chassis problem and had to remove the tub, did you know you can lift your chassis off the ground with the wiring harness!!!!!
Ray TF 2884
Ray Lee

Great answer Ray. I learned something there.
Dave H
Dave Hill

Darryl I can't guarantee my car is original but I am happy to take a spin out so you can check some of these details by comparing :-)

Dave
D Moore

Cheers Dave that would be fabulous. I am currently trying to get the panel fit correct at the front. I appear to have mislaid the chrome strip that holds the 2 sides of the bonnet together which is making it near on impossible. Also concerned about the hight and angle of the radiator.
Let me know when suits.
Thanks Darryl
D Lamb

Ray
That's great to know and makes so much sense. So that panel can be removed without affecting the rigidity of the tub and chassis.
And valve radios. Where do you pick up this information?
Thanks for the tip on the wiring loom. Not there yet.
D Lamb

Darryl,
the problem is that I am old enough to have wanted a TF when they were new. The other problem is they cost a couple of years wages for a working man and totally out of reach on an apprentice wage.The best I could manage was an ex wartime Matchless motorcycle.
Ray TF 2884
Ray Lee

Bet it was a G3L - my dad had one of those post war. He worked for BL at Cowley most of the time but occasionally visited MGs at Abingdon, where we lived. His first car was his dad's old Ford Pop.
Dave H
Dave Hill

Correct, G3l from Pride & Clarke, 19-17s-6d delivered. Mind you that was 7 weeks pay for an apprentice, it was un-used stock with only 20 miles on the clock and not khaki but still factory black.
Ray
Ray Lee

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