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MG TD TF 1500 - MG Badge on Spinner

Does anyone have advice on how to mount an MG badge on the spare wire wheel spinner? The hub surface has got a slight curve to it so I wonder if the badge will lay flat against it. It has a chrome finish so I hesitate to use an adhesive and wonder whether I should center drill the spinner for a screw connection.
Thanks...Mike

Mike I

Mike, I bought one from Moss about 5 years ago that has a slight dish in it. It has a fixed bolt in the center that goes through a hole in the center of the wing nut. I don't think Moss has that type anymore, but it would be worth checking. PJ

PSJ Jennings

Hi Mike I bought one from Moss UK and a new spinner. As PJ described it fits with a nut to the spinner. The badge and the spinner are both slightly curved.

However I was disappointed that the new badge was far larger than the old original badge which incidently was connected by 2 studs. The new badge is identical to the one on the radiator.

D Lamb

The original spinner and badge with 2 stud connections

At some point when I find a good local chromer I will restore this original spinner and badge

I did query this with Moss but no luck that's just the one they do!

D Lamb

Darryl - just to be sure, are you suggesting that your old spinner was original to the car? It looks home-made to me, as almost any wire-wheel on a TD will be.

Tom Lange
MGT Repair
t lange

That's a good point Tom. The spinner has been on the car since my parents got it in the early 60s. This was a CKD so impossible to know if the wire wheels came originally on the car. As for the spinner it could have been knocked up by the factory as only 8 cars came in this way. Can I take it from what you say that the Moss badge is more like what was on the UK and US cars.

The picture attached is the first taken of the car when my parents started work on it in the early 60s

Just noticed that if you zoom in on the spinner there is no badge...maybe my patents attached it themselves..

D Lamb

Thanks for the comments....I'm not clear as to whether you you guys modified the spinner by drilling holes in the hub to accommodate the badge (PJ) or whether you bought the spinner with the badge attachment already provided (Darryl). The one with two fasteners seen thru the badge isn't very attractive.
Mike I

The factory knock off on the TF is drilled for the badge. When using an ordinary wheel knock off on wire wheel conversions you would need to drill it to add the badge. Shouldn't be difficult to do.

L E D LaVerne

Mike --- It's possible to adapt TD hubcap medalions to knockoffs with a little bit of machining. The result is quite attractive IMHO -- Lou VanK.

Lou Van Koningsveld

Here is a sketch of the machining need. --Lou

Lou Van Koningsveld

I had the same problem with a Moss reproduction badge & spinner with our recent restoration. The badge is larger & does not sit flush up against the face of the spinner, also due to the poor quality of attachment the retaining stud snapped off the back of the badge. I had to epoxy bond the badge & stud back together and very carefully tighten it in place. So a word of warning, be gentle when tightening the bolt, or apply epoxy around the stud & badge prior to fitting to provide a better attachment.

Chris Bennett

Chris Bennett

Apolagies Mike my post was a bit confusing.
The new spinner I bought from Moss has a hole that the new badge I also got from Moss fits. The badge fitted perfectly onto the spinner with a nut used to attach it.
D Lamb

Hey guys, thanks for sharing all that experience with me. As some of you pointed out, they sell the concave badge and the spinner that's been predrilled. Moss still has them but you have to look under MG "medallion", not "badge". The price I saw was $250 for the spare spinner including medallion. I think I like the idea of drilling out the one I have and buying the curved medallion for it. According to Lou's sketch, the hub is only about 1/8 in thick.
Chris, I'd be a little leery about depending on epoxy to hold that badge stud. I think if it gets bumped it may come off and you may end up losing it.
Mike
Mike I

Looks like TF owners have it easy with regard to MG medallions !
The front and rear badges differ slightly in their stud size at the base.
The rear one has a larger base originally and is very secure. Some of the repro studs are of questionable quality.

I sent my original MG medallions for both TFs to New Zealand for re enamelling and then re chroming. A great job was done with the resultant correct colour etc. You can pick out the original enamel before sending to NZ and use Jeweller's files to dress any imperfections on the lettering.The curvature and lettering of the originals is nice to see. More expensive of course compared to just purchasing a repro.

Cheers
Rob Grantham
TF3719("Aramis"),TF9177("Athos").
Rob Grantham

Actually, mine is a TD. Is there any difference?
Mike

Mike I

Just the colors. The stock spare knock off for a TF is nothing like what you would have on your TD.

L E D LaVerne

Mike -- My TD has been converted to wire wheels with MGB front disc brakes. the medalions are held in place the same way as on the hub caps, with a spring washer and cotter pin. Good luck with whichever you chose

Lou Van Koningsveld

YOU GUYS ARE AMAZING!
Thanks again......Mike
Mike I

The badge used on TF cars was not tightly bolted to the spare tire spinner.It had spring under the nut so it could be turned after it was installed on the car to get MG right side up. Forrest TDC / 22679
Forrest Rubenstein

Forrest is correct on the rear TF medallion/badge being able to be rotated. I like to have the spare wheel spinner set at the 6 o'clock 12 o'clock position.

Cheers
Rob Grantham
Rob Grantham

I drilled a hole in spinner and secured the badge with a nut and washer. To adjust for curvature, I have a thin rubber layer between the badge and the spinner. Works fine. Originally! I had used one of the aluminium hub cap medallions, but then changed to the enameled radiator type badge.

Rgds Mike
Mike Fritsch

Mike,
That's what I decided to do. I will add a spring under the nut as Rob and Forrest described. I haven't gotten the badge yet but it was described as having a concave back to fit the curvature of the spinner hub.
Thanks
Mike I

My spoinny has a hole already and the badge thing is already through it. Did you loose your original spinney with the hole already for the slotted thing?
J MacDonald

Hi All:
TCs had a "flag" on the medallion mounting stud so that it would automatically insert into a slot in the tire carrier as the spare spinner was tightened, thereby ensuring the MG logo was always properly displayed. By the time the TF was built the bean-counters had determined that the correct positioning of MG's octagon was the responsibility of the owner and not the factory and this clever little device was deleted in favor of a spring and nut.
:-)
Godspeed in Safety Fast
Jc
John Crawley

Mike,
Forrest from Virginia was right my TF still has the original spare wheel spinner with original badge which has a long threaded extension & spring beneath to allow turning the badge after installation of the spare wheel
Wayne Styles

I don't have the spring on mine which makes getting it positioned quite tricky. Can you give me a rough idea of the spring dimensions such as length and width.

Thanks Chris
CE Valder

G'Day Chris,
Any light spring that compresses enough to pull the badge out to turn around would do you might have to experiment with some different springs to get one that suits
Wayne
Wayne Styles

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