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Anyone else getting Asian writing on their display?
I can not read very much this morning.
Was fine last night about 9
M Grogan

The spammers are back. They are hammering the entire MG site!
S Griffin

I just sent a message to the web master, he probably knows about it anyway, but just in case. It was done early this morning. PJ
PSJ Jennings

I guess that is to be expected now that China has bought MG :)
Rod Jones

It happens every month or so. Looks like the Admins are clearing up the mess now.
S Griffin

Looks like they hit again.
page will not come up at all now.
M Grogan

Well as I speak... its up and running.
M Grogan

Anyone else getting Asian writing on their display?
I can not read very much this morning.
Was fine last night about 9
M Grogan

The spammers are back. They are hammering the entire MG site!
S Griffin

I just sent a message to the web master, he probably knows about it anyway, but just in case. It was done early this morning. PJ
PSJ Jennings

I guess that is to be expected now that China has bought MG :)
Rod Jones

It happens every month or so. Looks like the Admins are clearing up the mess now.
S Griffin

Looks like they hit again.
page will not come up at all now.
M Grogan

Well as I speak... its up and running.
M Grogan

My friend is a regular on mge. I am constantly making repairs to the repairs and adjustments he has done after listening to other amateur mechanics over there giving him advice. The damage is usually not too serious, but it does waste a lot of time over doing it right the first time. He is learning what not to do, which is better than learning nothing at all. So he learns how to do it the right way through watching me repair his damage, and then when he reports back to his lot over there about how it should have been done in the first place, they ridicule him for not having done it the way they suggested, which did not (and never would) work right, except maybe on brand new parts. They probably are hacked by people paying hackers to mess with them for all the bad advice they recieved over the years costing them thousands of dollars in new parts.

I myself find it very objectionable for someone to intentionally wreck someones car through bad advice, just to sell parts to replace those ruined.

Most of the fake people giving vaguely acceptable advice over there are actually employees of various parts houses, which is why they all agree with one another and back up each other's ruinous advice.

Not sure this site is any better, but time will tell.
Is this site a put-on by LBCC/Moss or is it one of those rare independent sites beholdent to nobody?
J MacDonald

Every site has well intentioned but misinformed people giving advice.

It is one of the reasons I set up my own independent forum which used to be very busy with posts but nowadays has lots of visitors who just read rather than posting.

35,000 visits and 56,000 page views last month!

The other reason I run my own fora (car and horse) is that I can actively manage abusive or OTT posts!
Chris at Octarine Services

Jerry what is with the comment. far as I know this site is for mgtd and tf cars. it is not put on by Moss or LBBC. I have been on this site for well over 15 years and the advice given here is and always has been great.
TRM Maine

TRM, I think our occasional visitor has returned with his usual negative comments.

Tim
TD12524
Tim Burchfield

Background noise easily ignored. Every forum, board, newsgroup collects a few.
MAndrus

What is with the comment? It is a comment. I have been working on LBC's and BBC's since the early 60's and it is my observation that much of the info given there is exactly as I described. Those people cannot even give proper instructions fro removing a knock-off spinner to change a tire. And I have noticed the prominent advertisements, have you not?

It is hard to say who actually puts on the site. I have long time patients who are who are some of the most prominent corporate and tax attorneys in the US, and just exactly what is behind appearances is often elusive.

Paid sponsorship of websites is generally readily apparent because the sponsorship is in the form of advertisements. Then there is a more malignant aspect to sponsorship where paid employees of the sponsoring entities create fake persona's on a website to prop up the belief in the importance of their employer's product or service or expertise. This can be simply actual storefront employees assigned to spend some time each day working various sites, or it can be in the form of hiring a service specializing in working websites; where the service simply hires people adept at doing web searches to create an appearance of expertise, or to manipulate questions and conversation towards the product they are provoking interest in. Wikipedia-type info encyclopedia formats are a good example of the latter, where people specializing in manipulating wiki content for their customer is big business. Think BBB, which stopped being much of an actual consumer advocate group long ago, or think google search results which re easily skewed depending on how much sponsorship has been paid. Such manipulations are common knowledge, and discussion of these things represent nothing more than simple free speech on topics commonly known.

When these commercial aspects of web manipulation create disinformation and bad advice, it is our duty as thinking people (able to form thoughts) to call into question what we see as sources, and examples of bad information. Of course the various sites in question do sometimes give out good advice along with all the questionable, and bad advice, although that possibility was never inclusively excluded by what I originally said.

If you want a simple method of sometimes spotting these fake persona "experts" you can look for a few things. One is very brief responses, and another is the use of bad spelling and bad grammar. These three are the fundamental elements employed to disguise multiple fake persona's written by the same person.
J MacDonald

Why would a guy living in Ontario have, "...long time patients who are who are some of the most prominent corporate and tax attorneys in the US,..."[sic] Seems odd to me.

Tim
TD12524
Tim Burchfield

I'd like to see the example of someone telling your customer to ruin a given part in order that they could sell him some more. As far as misinformation.. sure it happens...even in the auto repair trade. I seek advice from trusted professional shops on a lot of issues and between 3 shops I might get 3 different opinions about how something should be done. I take in what I can and try and make the best decision I can and I'm willing share with others both my sucsess and my failures.
L E D LaVerne

Note that the two longest posts in this thread are by someone who says posts on forums aren't reliable and shouldn't be trusted.....

MAndrus

I think this is one of the best sites in the world for advice and knowledge on our little cars. as to who someone really is, I have personally met a lot of the folks who are regulars on this board. I have been to many GOF Central meets as well as being a part of MG 2001. which was held here in the Twin Cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul Mn. I have never heard of anyone on this board who has tried to mislead anyone regarding our cars. Some of the best GURU's are located here in MN. No one that I have ever talked to anyone on this board who would deliberately try to lead someone along down the wrong path. this is a help board with lots of great people responding to questions. As for spelling and grammar, who cares. intent is what goes on here.
TRM Maine

In addition to this site, I have been a regular on the MGexp site for some years, from since when I purchased my 77 B back in 2013. Now I have for sure, seen some stupid stuff posted, but for the most part the forum seems to be populated with like minded souls enjoying their cars. There is a vendor forum and the moderators really try and keep a lid on overt promotion. I think like any internet source of information, you have to apply your own judgement as to the accuracy of the information provided. It is not as if there are not good manuals, guides and You Tube videos from the likes of University Motors to look at. The key to these things is to reference multiple sources before plunging into something that you are not sure of.
S Griffin

Tim + MAndrus thanks for the brief and meaningless comments. Hmmm. Tim, do you know where Toronto and New York are on map? TRM thanks for reminding us of the endless forms of subterfuge as per my sujet du jour. My list was brief as it simply brought up a few of the most common forms, and your post brings up just another example, that being the "big lie" misquote. This is so typical when "a bunch of people" respond in pretend outrage and make ridiculous claims about what was originally never said. In this particular case we have TRM claiming my comments were in reference to this website, when clearly they were about the other. LED, you rarely say foolish things, but please do try and focus on not taking things too wildly out of context.

So what are you fellow's saying, that when some big mouth on the other site tells you to stick dynamite in your engine and gearbox and light it up to get your stalled car running, that would be a case of somebody trying to get you to buy new parts? No, gentlemen, it is generally a bit more less obvious, and quite a bit of the misinformation available is not simply to sell you stuff, it is also to see how much nonsense you are willing to pay into, in lieu of actual keen knowledge.
J MacDonald

Mr MacDonald. You & your comments are not welcome here..
P Hehir

Well Peter, Tom Lange and Mitch Andrus have chosen to ridicule me because they have something to hide. I cannot imagine what of any value they may have anyone wants, but apparently misinformation and falsehoods are like currency here. How about you get your facts straight before you tell me to go away? Mitch has wood parts to sell and we all know what Tom has to sell. What you got Pete? What I cannot quite understand is why they would feel threatened by exposing the phony boloney going on over at the other site? And it is quite mysterious why you are so defensive of the other site, Peter. Shall I speculate on your motives and make up a load of nonsense and try and convince people that is what you stand for?
J MacDonald

Well Old MacDonald you have removed all doubt that you are the same troll who has plagued this site before. What possible twisted pleasure do you get out of coming here and making a fool of yourself? We can only hope that you are removed ASAP. But if not I hope others will, like me, totally ignore your future pathetic attempts to be disruptive.

Tim
TD12524
Tim Burchfield

this started as a thread having to do with Asian writing.
all of a sudden there is a claim made about folks on this site trying to screw people by telling them wrong info about their cars. I dont know what other site you seem to be complaining about. it should not be this one and blaming Tom Lange and others is not the way to go. Tom has always been upfront with me and others about giving his advice. I have dealt with Tom over many years and take his advice seriously. He is a hale fellow well met.
TRM Maine

"TIM" everybody knows that you are the magic troll who calls everybody who shows you up for the detritus you are, a troll. Even when you agree with someone you call them a troll. I do like your avatar on the junk exp site, as it shows inside your minde. The smashed up car is so you. Quite frankly, nobody believes any of your fake persona's can possibly be that dumb as you pretend to be. Keep up the good work, at least you are good at being dumb. Your ignorant pond scum act apparently is found to be quite convincing in certain quarters amongst all the other troll patrol. Keep counting those beans, trash boy.
J MacDonald

So now you are pretending to be Tom? I think if he has something to say he can say it himself and does not need you pretending to be him calling everybody names. Interesting. How about Mitch pretends to be Barney and I will be Swift and we can pretend to race our falling apart pretend wood cars? You losers are lost in fantasyland arn't you?

J MacDonald

Make the most of the little time you have left Mr MacDonald. The only reason you haven't been removed is because it's the early hours of the morning in England where the site administrator resides. Goodbye. And please don't come back!
P Hehir

It is you and a few other trouble makers that need removal, as you fail to read posts and act aggressively towards others who have an opinion you don't like. How childish to claim I dislike this site when clearly I said I disliked the exp site. Reap what you sow. Maybe start a misinformation franchise of your very own?
J MacDonald

I know this guy. He's the crazy old man that lived down the street from us. The ill-dressed woman talking non-stop about everything and everybody. The brilliant kid whose grey-matter shorted into conspiracies about everything. The guy pushing a shopping cart full of discarded car parts.

Push him gently away and be thankful.
J Barry

Gee... all I said was the other site was having problems again..


but its OK now..

then this whole thread changed..
M Grogan

TRM Maine, are you feeling any better since your DT's got the better of you yesterday when you posted this nonsense?

TRM Maine, Minnesota, USA, tmaine51@yahoo.com
I think this is one of the best sites in the world for advice and knowledge on our little cars. as to who someone really is, I have personally met a lot of the folks who are regulars on this board. I have been to many GOF Central meets as well as being a part of MG 2001. which was held here in the Twin Cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul Mn. I have never heard of anyone on this board who has tried to mislead anyone regarding our cars. Some of the best GURU's are located here in MN. No one that I have ever talked to anyone on this board who would deliberately try to lead someone along down the wrong path. this is a help board with lots of great people responding to questions. As for spelling and grammar, who cares. intent is what goes on here.



J MacDonald

Or we could take it one point at a time. Who cares about spelling and grammar? Certainly not myself on a site like this, if you read my post I was clearly talking about people such as yourself TRM Maine, who issue multiple fake accounts and try to hide their unique way of writing by using very brief comments from their troll identities as well as try and hide by using abhorrent grammar and common spelling errors. I find it very distressing that the other people (one or two real ones I suppose) are not asking for your removal for expecting people here to be so stupid as to believe your complete nonsense about spelling and grammar. But your belief that other's will believe the nonsense about me claiming this site is in fact mgexp truly shows your contempt for the people's intelligence here.

Also of prime importance is the fact that none of you self righteous boors creating fictional meanings to my comments have asked for so much as a single example of what I am talking about from the mgexp site. Because you know I can supply multitudes of them, I suppose.
J MacDonald

I have no clue as to who you are. dont care, just go away. this board does not need someone like you on it. as the brits used to say, Piss Off
TRM Maine

Such obscene foul mouthed inanities from the resident troll who nobody ever listens to. Quite to be predicted from the low life likes of you, when exposed for the ignorant dull tool you are.
J MacDonald

I've been a contributor to this site for the past four years & was immediately struck by the civility & helpfulness of those of you who contributed. MacDonald & his other four aliases (all of whom have been barred) has been the one jarring note. I would urge all contributors who are offended by this idiot to use the 'report abuse' tab at the bottom of this thread. Ignoring him simply won't make him go away. This site is a valuable resource & needs to be protected from unfortunate people like MacDonald. Cheers
Peter TD 5801
P Hehir

Peter I second the motion.

Tim
TD12524
Tim Burchfield

Done
Chris at Octarine Services

It is quite clear the growing list of people who are only here to promote their commercial interests on the mgexp site, and don't care a hoot about this site except to use it to promote the other site. All very transparent now. You have all lined up here quite well under the mgexp banner to proclaim your ignorance and foul mouthed and nasty nature. Only fooling yourselves, nobody here was ever fooled. People like you do your best to make the hobby much less fun than it should be, dont you? Shame on you.
J MacDonald

finally took a look at the MG EXPERIENCE. this site here is the one I prefer for out TD and TF conversations. the other site seems to take in all sorts of the cars. Think I will always stick to this site. As I have for lo these many years.
TRM Maine

MacDonalds' claim that I frequent, post & sell on the site he mentions is as absurd as his derisive comments. I've never even visited it, much less posted on it. My guess is he's been banned from that site. Hence the vitriol. What I don't understand is why his abusive, deranged & incoherent rants haven't seen him banned from this one? Cheers
Peter TD 5801
P Hehir

A tad grumpy today Pete, you get thrown off the Metro bus again today? About time for you to sign in as Mitch or one of the other voices in your head and tell us all about how outraged "he" is, eh? Maybe TRM to 3rd it and say again how he is finished with this topic?
J MacDonald

On the Internet, to ignore is to conquer.
PSJ Jennings

Shame we don't have an "ignore" button like some other sites - there also seems to be an issue contacting Mike about the abuse with the mail getting returned with a temporary delay.
Chris at Octarine Services

I have been busy of late, and have not seen this thread that mentions me. I make absolutely no excuses for the fact that I make and sell parts for T-series MG's, but I try to be positively meek when recommending my own parts on forums, unless I believe my part can cure a problem about which someone writes. I firmly believe that my parts are the best available, and I stand behind them 100% - as my thousands of purchasers of gaskets, brass core plugs etc., may well be able to attest.

As for my participation in this site and MGExp, I offer advice and suggestions based on a fair number of years of MG ownership and experience - I got my first MG (1939 TB - still own it!) in 1967, and my first partner was John Twist, whose name will be recognized by those who care. My proferred advice is based on my own experiences and those of others whose opinions I respect, and is aimed at those who have NOT changed spring bushings, carb throttle shafts, or whatever.

As for J. McDonald's comment that "Peter, Tom Lange and Mitch Andrus have chosen to ridicule me because they have something to hide", I have ABSOLUTELY no idea to what he is referring. If I disagree with someone to the point where I think what they are doing will harm a part or endanger a car - I will say so, also if I think they are doing something the absolute hardest way possible. I have absolutely nothing to hide, and can only hope that what advice I offer is received with reflection and pause, and the added benefit of other opinions. I make no claims to being an expert; I have certainly contributed incorrect advice without thinking clearly. But I also go out of my way to acknowledge that I have give out erroneous information, and to apologize.

Most of all, I would be grateful to know precisely where and when I have insulted or ridiculed anyone, so that I can reconsider my comments, and act appropriately. I have absolutely no connection with any other vendor of MG parts, Moss, Abingdon, or anyone else, who, I assume also make mistakes.

Tom Lange
MGT Repair
t lange

Tom has an iron clad reputation as an outstanding contributor to our hobby, and owes nobody any apologies. Tom has freely shared his knowledge and expertise with many enthusiasts, both on and off this forum.
Tom has earned a stellar reputation as an honest, hard working person, having given decades of support to our hobby. Tom's line of products are very high quality, and he stands behind them 100%. Dragging Tom in to this petty little attention grabbing fit of forum tantrumming is not ok.
Be well,
David
D. Sander

All my dealings with Tom Lange have been honest and above board. I value his advice and recommend his products. Drive by attacks on people's reputations should be immediately removed in this forum.

Tim
TD12524
Tim Burchfield

2cd that Tim
TRM Maine

Looks like Mr. MacDonald has been sent back to his farm to minister to his unlucky animals who can't protect themselves. I appreciate Mike's work at containing the likes of the MacDonalds as quickly as possible (I also appreciate Skye on the MG Experience site for doing the same thing thing on his side). I also appreciate how the members here (and on the MGE site) for banding together when any of the trolls strike. Cheers - Dave
D.W. DuBois

Tom I second your reply Although we have not done much business together Your service and advise and help has been appreciated on this side of the border.

Cheers,

Gerard
Gerard Hengeveld

I happen to also manage a forum for boats and we simply don't allow this sort of derogatory talk by anyone, and when it's discovered we jail the thread and ban the IP of the user. I'm convinced that there's a certain group of folks who are simply mentally disturbed and who feel a need to harm or belittle others... and sadly they find forums an easy place to spread their venom... they get their jollies by seeing the outraged reaction and by making their targets upset.

I've seen nothing but good, useful and constructive commentary by Tom, Peter and the lot of you, with Mr. MacDonald's rant being the clear exception. I greatly appreciate the sharing and assistance this site offers, and all who contribute are making a positive impact on the preservation and enjoyment of these fine cars. May it ever be so. And if we cannot ban this fellow, then let's just ignore him and not feed the beast.

Kevin McLemore

Kevin. Once again the voice of wisdom and reason.
MAndrus

Mike took down the other thread - but don't waste your time - Mcdonut is gone - for now...
Chris at Octarine Services

reporting McDonald as abuse!!!
cj schmit

Thanks, Mr. Andrus... at least I got *something* with my getting old. ;)
Kevin McLemore

I'd like to work for Tom.
Peter Dahlquist

I would rather have Tom work for me. If I worked for him he would soon be out of business.

Tim
TD12524
Tim Burchfield

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