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MG TD TF 1500 - Moss carpet

Received my new carpet from Moss UK, what a mess, pieces missing, looks like a three year old has been at it with a pair of scissors.
I glued the sound proofing underlay to the various sections, then went about fitting them in the car, in the old archive photo I have posted you can see there is no carpet coverage of the section covered in vinyl that is EXACTLY how my new carpet is.
The piece that goes under the hand brake mech over the tailshaft cover is not in the kit, there is a hole left in the carpet from bad stitching where the gear stick boot attaches to the carpet.
This carpet set is a total disgrace.
I have emailed MOSS but have not had a reply I could not find a name or an email address to send this photo to, hope they see it here.
I procrastinated for months about buying a carpet set rather than make my own, how bloody silly I was,but I read PJ's post and how he thought the carpet set he got from Moss was good so I went for it, delivery was perfect but the goods terrible.

Regards

George



G Mills

It may be of interest to you to learn that the original looms to weave the original TD/TD carpets in 'Karvel', were purchased by Heritage Trim of Vancouver BC..

As far as I know, Heritage is the only source of pukka original original TD/TF carpets.

See http://www.heritagetrim.com/

Gord Clark
Rockburn, Qué.

Gord Clark

Didn't want to go down that track Gord, not interested in Karvel as such, plus my carpet is Red, all I wanted was a carpet that would do the job, this one don't.



Regards

George
G Mills

Here is mine. Moss carpet. Not glued on gearbox cover.
(Ps. T nut is shop made. I can't find the factory one just now. )

The carpet is glued to the dipstick cover. The assembly is over the lower carpet.

Jim B.

JA Benjamin

Apple did me in again.
JA Benjamin

That's ok Jim I can see it and that is what I expected mine to be like, looking at mine again I think there is a piece missing that goes over the transmission cover and runs down to the side of the clutch pedal (RHD), I just discovered a Hole just below where the gear stick cover meets the carpet and at the back on the left hand side of the transmission cover carpet there is a what looks like a cut about 4 inches long and it has been sewn up, surely that is not right as it kinks the carpet on the passenger side.
I will post pic's of all this later.

Regards

George


Jim is the rear end of your carpet which goes over the transmission turned up to meet the carpet section that fills in the gap, it looks like it to me , mine is just straight cut.
G Mills

George, this is not helping your dilemma but some years ago I bought a carpet kit from NTG in the UK and two pieces, the main being the part with the cover for the gearstick, were pretty awful. I sent a photo of the pieces to NTG and they immediately sent out replacements with no postage cost to me. Excellent service. Good luck with yours.
Don TF 4887
D J Walker

Well Don I hope Moss do the same for me as I am not in a position to send this lot back, looking at over $100 in freight.


regards

George
G Mills

I sympathize with you George. I think it's really important that disgruntled customers use forums such as this to make others aware of the shoddy suppliers. This gives us all a chance to purchase goods elsewhere that are actually fit for purpose. I know some others don't agree with this & believe the matter should be resolved between the customer & supplier. Tried that (see below). The archive is littered with complaints about Moss products. There are even references to Moss taking action to address these concerns but nothing ever happens. I've kept a running list of Moss stuff that's worse than useless & would love to see a thread listing those items which could be added to by customers from all over the globe. Maybe then we might get some action! As I've said on another thread, I stayed up till the early hours of the morning last April so I could speak to Glen Adams, the CEO of Moss US Western Division personally, to make him aware of the 17 items that I had knowledge of & had caused me & other T Type owners here very real concern, (particularly galling when the outrageous shipping charges are added). I immediately sent him an email which he acknowledged receipt of. He promised he would personally investigate the products identified & get back to me. 12 months on & I'm still waiting for a reply. Meanwhile the list continues to grow, as does the number of unhappy customers... Cheers
Peter TD 5801
P Hehir

I agree Peter we need to let others know what is going on although in my case I think someone at Moss has grabbed a box marked with this particular carpet set details and did not check the contents or if they did, they did not know what they were looking at.
I personally think it is very very old stock and was not supposed to be sold.
As I said I took PJ's comments on board before ordering my carpet, his obviously was nice , mine rubbish.
I await a reply from someone at Moss although emailed yesterday during their work hours and still have not had a reply.
I will post some pic's later when I can.
Regards
george
G Mills

Hi George.
Looks like you have helped me as I was about to take up Moss specials for this month on their carpet & upholstery.
Was about to order carpets, side curtain covers & hood.
After ready this thread changed my mind & will go elsewhere.
But this is no help you but it may register with Moss!!!
Cheers John
J.K. Chester-Freeman

G/day John, really wouldn't want anyone to cane Moss over my posts on the Carpet matter, I have not heard from them but I do think this carpet was a reject item that had found it's way into the store, no company in their right mind would send out such damaged incomplete item, just wait mate until I get an answer on it.

Regards

George
G Mills

I have no complaints about the carpet I received from Moss for any of the 3 "T" that I got them for. That said it appears from your photo there is a big difference from what you received and what I got. Mine from Moss USA. Two LHD TD/TF sets and one TC RHD. Yours from Moss UK?
MG LaVerne

George, Like LaVerne,my new carpet set from Moss USA is very complete. It appears in their illustrations of the RHD carpet set, you have a piece missing that should be in the set. If you haven't already, I'd call them and let them know. Moss here is very good about situations like that. As LaVerne said, did you get yours from Moss UK? PJ
Paul S Jennings

Just my experience. I have used Moss USA carpet sets and have been completely satisfied over the years. Hopefully you will receive satisfaction from Moss UK.

Brian W.
ZBMan

Someone wondered why they got two of your missing pieces in their kit....
George Butz

Quote" Jim is the rear end of your carpet which goes over the transmission turned up to meet the carpet section that fills in the gap, it looks like it to me , mine is just straight cut." End Quote

The major part of the carpet over the gearbox cover is one assembly, It consists of several pieces sown together. The section, far up on the foot board is attached to the rear section and formed into a curve which fits (not great but OK) around the bell housing cover and lies (more or less) on the foot board.

There is then a separate piece, affixed, at it's top, by two Lift-The-Dots, that extends over the sowed on piece.

The leather gearshift boot was also sown in to the rearward section of this assembly.

Jim B.
JA Benjamin

Not a first hand expert in RHD carpets but there is definitely something weird going on with Georges carpets.

I sent an email to Matthew M to weigh in.
Christopher Couper

I still have not had a reply to my email sent Tuesday.
Yes Moss UK.
When speaking to one of their reps via Messenger yesterday they said it would be attended to straight away but that did not happen, maybe today ( tonight here).

This photo is of the front of the transmission cover, anyone know why it would have been cut and then sewn up again,
Once again tried to post a few pic's but I cant get it to work.
Regards

george

G Mills

This photo is of the area not covered by the carpet

G Mills

Further down towards the pedals

G Mills

The Hole in the carpet

G Mills

This one shows the , what looks like a repair at the front of the transmission cover

G Mills

There are other sections on the carpet set that look like they have been hacked out with a blunt pair of scissors by a three year old.
G Mills

George, there is supposed to be what tailors call a 'dart' at the front of the transmission cover, which looks just like your 'repair'. This takes up some of the slack there.
You seem to be missing the bell housing cover? This "C" shaped piece was glued to the tin cover. I have attached a pic of my factory piece.

Matthew.

M Magilton

A pic of my new carpet which I cut using the factory pieces for patterns. I re-used the factory rubber mat (which proves how well the factory rubber lasts!). The steering column fume excluder is incorrect.

Matthew.

M Magilton

Thanks Matthew get the picture now, definitely didn't get that piece, which leads me to believe it is old stock which has been rejected, robbed etc and has found it's way back into stock to me it still does not look as though the bell housing cover would extend and cover the area alongside the clutch pedal, on the set I have the carpet is cut horizontal finishing alongside the pedal on your photo that piece seems to be cut at a slight angle.

Regards

George
G Mills

George,

Both my TDs had gearbox cover carpet in this format #4.
I don't know if the new supplied carpet is now in two pieces to save the cost of sewing it together, but my gearbox covers have always been one piece. The front flange piece that covers the bell housing type bit, is all part of the main cover. You can also see the Darts :)

FWIW.
Rod


R. D. Jones

My new carpet set from Moss was complete. The transmission cover was sewn in one area to create the proper shape. The item # 3 in the illustration, included in my set, is held in place with lift-A-Dots. I'd certainly raise hell about the set you got George. It sure looks screwed up to me. JMHO. PJ
Paul S Jennings

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