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What plug did the 53 TD come with? Where did the 1/2 inch plug end, engine no. and the 3/4 inch plug began? PJ |
PJ Jennings |
53 TD came with 3/4 inch reach - I believe the change over was sometime in late 52, but we are in Ireland at the moment so I don't have access to my data. Cheers - Dave |
DW DuBois |
PJ, it appears from the June 1958 parts catalog that the only cylinder head change for a TD started with engine #22735. Tom Lange can tell you what car that engine came in if you are interested. Tim TD12524 |
Tim Burchfield |
According to Neil Cairnes (Engines for M.G.s, Their Story After 1935), and Paddy Willmer (MG T Series in Detail TA-TF 1935-1955) ... head #168422 which has round water passage holes was the first to use 3/4" reach plugs. First used on MkII XPAG/TD3/17029, 9-June-52. Phased in to TD production later that year. Possible XPAG/TD2/17969, 7-July-52. Yes, Tom Lange can give the definitive answer. Lonnie TF7211 |
LM Cook |
Car TD22504 had engine XPAG/TD2/22735 Happy to help with the Production Record questions any time. Tom Lange MGT Repair |
t lange |
As cylinder heads may have been swapped by previous owners (perhaps not so often in the USA), I wonder if some photos would help Mr Jennings. The attached photo is the early oval water hole head, with casting number 22952, and which takes 1/2" thread length spark plugs.
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R A WILSON |
This attached photo is the later round water hole head, with casting number 168422, and which takes 3/4" thread length spark plugs. Should Mr Jennings find a casting number of 168425, with the last 5 stamped in (I do not have a photo), then the head still takes 3/4" thread length spark plugs. I should say that sometimes the cast numbers are not at all clear. ![]() |
R A WILSON |
For interest, the TF1500 cylinder head AEF118, although the number is actually stamped on. It also takes 3/4" thread length spark plugs.
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R A WILSON |
Here's the 168425 stamping from the head that I installed onto 'The53'. Bud
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Bud Krueger |
Nice photos of the various MG T type Cylinder Head casting numbers/letters through the models. Bud,I gather you changed your TD to the larger valved Cylinder Head as in the correct TF 1250cc (1953-1054) 168425, with the '5' stamped in ? Cheers Rob Grantham TF3719("Aramis"),TF9177("Athos"). |
Rob Grantham |
Yes, Rob. 'The53' is/was Car #23816, built in very late December 1952. Still had original engine #24091. But, it had a banana port head and an early sump. In searching for an appropriate head I lucked into finding the 168425 head with the stamped '5'. More details can be seen at http://www.ttalk.info/53Engine.htm Bud |
Bud Krueger |
Bud, Ouch ! Those scores/ gouges in the cylinder wall, nasty. I like your typical attention to detail on the engine rebuild work. Cheers Rob Grantham |
Rob Grantham |
Another example of the rather irregular stamping of the number on the XPEG cylinder head. Michael ![]() |
M R Calvert |
Thanks to Bud Krueger and M Calvert for the photos, which I have saved (168425 after enlarging) to keep with my other photos for my own general information. |
R A WILSON |
IF THIS POST IS OF ANY VALUE, I HAVE CHECKED MY FACTORY ORIGINAL PLUGS (CHAMPION NA 8) AND IT HAS A 3/4" REACH, BUT THE CENTER ELECTRODE IS SHORTER THAN THE CHAMPION RN 5C. ALSO, THE CERAMIC (NA 8) IS SHORTER AND A SMALLER DIAMETER THAN THE 5C. HEAD CASTING NO.168842 STAMPED WITH TWO OVERSTAMPED L'S ON MACHINED SURFACE. ORIGINAL HEAD FOR TF6688 1954 6688 ![]() |
colin stafford |
With which head, was the vapour balance hole introduced? Seems to me to be a good feature. Does anyone think it could be retro-drilled? Gord Clark Rockburn, Qué. |
Gord Clark |
Gord, what's the vapour balance hole? Bud |
Bud Krueger |
Isn't that where the Framus valve fits? It used to be that you saw them on most XPAG heads, but I think people realized that they served little purpose in this day and age, removed them, and stuck those slotted plugs in there instead. In fact, I can't remember the last one I saw! Tom Lange MGT Repair |
t lange |
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