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MG TD TF 1500 - TF Exhaust Hangers

Just received my beautiful TT exhaust system for the TF. Does anyone have good photos of the front hanger correctly connected? I'd like to see how the clamp (412-070) connects to the bracket (412-010) and to the tranny (the PO changed all that to generic hardware).

Also, do I need special hardware (321-678) to hang the tail pipe to the 2 rear hangers? I've got quite an assortment of W/BSF hardware here).

Thanks,
Tyler
C.T. Irwin

This is a TD. Moss says the parts are the same.

Maybe it helps

Jim B

JA Benjamin

I’m glad you asked the question Tyler. I just assembled the exhaust on TF 2071 from a box of bits and wouldn’t have known that bracket existed!

My rear hangers consist of a simple length of something like conveyor belting with two 1/4bsf bolts at the top and another, with a large washer, at the bottom. I believe them to be original.

I am tempted to knock out a bracket from a sheet of stainless I picked up at a recycling depo but I can’t quite see from Jim’s picture how the clamp attaches to the bracket.

Chris
C I Twidle

Chris,

You can see how the front pipe is connected to the gearbox in this exploded view.

www.angloparts.com/en/catalogues/group/772/mgtd-tf-exhaust-system-fittings#img1

John


J Scragg

Rear hanger on mine.



PJ Jennings

Front hanger, only pic I have.



PJ Jennings

Good illustration in the Driver's Handbook. Cheers
Peter TD 5801
P Hehir

Chris, this is a shot of the rear exhaust and the hanger forward of the rear bumper. These are correct for both TD and TF. I modified these as the holes on the AM versions aren't in the correct place. Cheers
Peter TD 5801

P Hehir

Help needed. What are the dimensions for part no. 11 (spacer, between clamp and bracket) on the Anglo Parts diagram provided by J Scragg?

www.angloparts.com/en/catalogues/group/772/mgtd-tf-exhaust-system-fittings#img1


Thanks,
Mike Marini
M Marini

Peter: I think the reason those brackets are not aligned correctly for the TD/TF is that they are really MGA brackets. I had to do the same but admit I did not create a new piece of metal like you did but just used my drill. Don't crawl under my car. :-)
Christopher Couper

How about that! Clearly sold as TD/TF items. I don't know if that is down to Moss or the local supplier. Anyone bought these from Moss as TD/TF brackets and had the issue with the holes? Cheers
Peter TD 5801
P Hehir

Thanks guys, my rear brackets do seem to have a certain “rustic charm” that I thought was quite in keeping with some of the other technology of the TF.
I just bought a roll of SS wire and gas for my mig welder and fabricating a copy of the front bracket looks like a nice little project.
Chris

C I Twidle

Chris that bracket that I posted has a block of rubber almost 1" thick glued between the two pieces of metal. It's probably clearer in this shot. I found when welding the new piece on that the glue melted with the heat. Cheers
Peter TD 5801

P Hehir

Sometimes those rubber-sandwich brackets don't hold together very long. I wacked a bolt through the middle of one of mine to keep it together when it failed.

Matthew.
M Magilton

The give away is that the pipe hole is 2" instead of 1 1/2" which was correct for the TD tailpipe. The MGA got a bigger pipe. I suspect almost every TD in existence got a new larger tailpipe when the fist muffler was replaced. I remember my father stating that happened at about 6 months. :-)

PS I think the sizes I quoted are correct (from memory) but I am not 100%. But anyway the MGA tailpipe was larger than the original TD one.
Christopher Couper

I had to use a die grinder to enlarge the diameter to fit my larger pipe, so I don't think that it was an MGA bracket. It was sold as being correct for the TD though. The holes were definitely in the wrong place. Cheers
Peter TD 5801
P Hehir

I’m quite at home with the “rustic charm” of mine and, as I have about 3 square metres of conveyor belting to stand on infront of one of my benches, I have a pretty well inexhaustable supply of replacement parts....
Chris
C I Twidle

I went out and measured my tailpipe. It's 1 1/2" which is bigger than original. So I guess the original must have been 1 1/4".
Christopher Couper

I am still in need of the dimensions for part no. 11 (spacer, between clamp and bracket) on the Anglo Parts diagram provided by J Scragg. It appears to be tubular and although I could do by trial and error the known measurements would be helpful. Thanks in advance!

www.angloparts.com/en/catalogues/group/772/mgtd-tf-exhaust-system-fittings#img1


Thanks,
Mike Marini
M Marini

Mike I'm going to take a pic and some measurements of the exhaust hanger on my car today. The following pic is from SC Parts exhaust kit but unfortunately doesn't show the spacer you're inquiring about. The hangers seem as though the holes are correctly located though. They say all parts are made in England. Pricey though. Cheers
Peter TD 5801

P Hehir

I don't think there is any set measurement. Assemble all of the parts- bracket to tranny, pipe to manifold and the clamp. Then measure the distance and make a spacer that will fit passively. The spacer thickness should allow it to be rigidly clamped without any up or down torque on the pipe. That would cause a twisting force of the manifold studs, etc. Due to variations in the bending/angle of various brands and ages of pipes, there would likely be a lot of variation. George
George Butz III

Agree with George B. re the spacer length for the downpipe to gearbox
round bracket.

A non original triangular bracket to gearbox can result in a variation in length required for the spacer, and they do vary ! The diameter of the downpipe can also influence the spacer length fit.

This spacer needs to be assessed for length after the careful progressive tightening of all setscrews, nuts etc. as George has so rightly indicated.

As an aside, the downpipe shape is critical as it has to just miss rubbing against the clutch fulcrum lever on the sump during operation.

Cheers
Rob Grantham
TF3719("Aramis"),TF9177("Athos").


Rob Grantham

Just back from the 20 klm round trip to the car. Also think George and Rob's comments are spot on. The following two pics show the set up on my car and the position of the holes in the AM 1 1/2" exhaust bracket purchased from Sportsparts here in Sydney. The pic below shows the bolt inserted upside down, reason being that the head wouldn't fit the other way. The spacer came with the car when I purchased it in 1969. Cheers
Peter TD 5801

P Hehir

Pic 2. This shows the location of the 2 original holes which can still be seen below the 2 bolts that secure the bracket to the chassis. The bracket is for an 1 1/2" pipe and had to be enlarged to accommodate the 1 3/4" system I've fitted. Cheers
Peter TD 5801

P Hehir

Fig P5 (lube section) in the WSM should allow you to guestimate the spacer size.
Mine is no help, as it is a stack of washers to make up the distance.
Ray TF 2884
Ray Lee

Peter: Is that dust on your car? You should be ashamed. :-)

Get one of these for your precious:

http://carcapsule.com/carcapsule-12-indoor/
Christopher Couper

Thanks to the last several responses I know what I need to do. It is clear to me now.

Thanks,
Mike Marini
M Marini

Yes Chris. Still sanding filler on areas of the tub around the drivers door. The panel damage to the rest of it sustained in storage over the past 48 years is now complete. Even with the capsule it wouldn't help. I cover as much of the car as I can while I work but the fine dust gets everywhere. On the last of the tub panel repairs now. Can't wait to roll it out of the garage, clean the entire chassis with soap and water and vacuum the carpet under the car.

Glad you're sorted Mike. Cheers
Peter TD 5801
P Hehir

One great thing about the old Abingdon Spares catalog was Gerry's listing of factory part numbers wherever possible. Look at page 19 of an old AS catalog and you'll see that Item #118b, Spacer, is Factory Part #ASL6361a. It's not an arbitrary part, though it's probably of simple dimensions. It's not shown in AKD834.

BTW, AKD834 shows the linkage of a bolt-on muffler.
Bud
Bud Krueger

The original exhaust system as most know, were one-piece from manifold to tip and only two hangers were use plus a stabilizer to the frame.

The OD of the original pipe was 1-5/8 inches (1.625"). My replacement is 1-½" OD. So I doubt the original hangers will work unless of course, you're lucky enough to still have an original exhaust system.

Gord Clark
Rockburn, Qué.
Gord Clark

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