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MG TD TF 1500 - Welting installation

Are there any good videos or written instructions out there for installing welting around fenders, etc?
Bill Reid TD4618

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W A Chasser

It's pretty straight forward. You make cuts around where the bolts go so you have some room to wiggle it.

The best way I have found is to have two people working on it. One person pushes, prods and wiggles the welting in place and holds it at a bolt location (starting at the top for example on the rear fender). Then the other tightens that bolt. Then you move down each side repeating the process.

For TD's the front welting has a small diameter core otherwise same principle.

For TF's look at the Original MGTF website for statements about the Al core between the rear fenders and running board and where the seam should be placed.
Christopher Couper

It also helps if you attach tags or tails onto the loose flap side, so that you can pull it in real tight from underneath when bolting up the fenders / wings, etc. Attach them with tape or staples.
Dave H
Dave Hill

In my restoration, I found that the welting was attached to the back fenders with two tacks. Here is the location of one. The other is down towards the bottom.

In the picture, you can make out the remains of the original welting.



Bruce Cunha

Here is what the spiral nail that held it in lookes like.

Bruce Cunha

I tied fishing line along the edges and pulled it tight as I tightened the bolts.
rich40701

Double sided tape is your friend.... especially when installing the rear fender welting.
CR
C.R. Tyrell

Welting. Now there's a word you don't come across every day. It took me a minute or two to figure out you guys were talking about the piping between the mudguards and the tub. Cheers
Peter TD 5801
P Hehir

Mudguards? I think we call them fenders although I've heard the front fenders referred to as wings. To us, mudguards are rubber flaps hung at the trailing ends of the fenders to keep tire splash from hitting the underside of the car. You can see the mudguards on the pic of my MGB attached.

Is "mudguards" Australian for "fenders"?

Thanks.

Jud

J. K. Chapin

No Jud. Fenders is American for mudguards. Cheers
Peter TD 5801
P Hehir

Touche!!!
J. K. Chapin

Jud,
In the UK they are mudflaps, if you follow a lorry you can tell why they are called flaps.
PS lorries are your trucks :-)
Ray TF 2884
Ray Lee

Double sided tape does sound like a good suggestion. I guess growing up in the Sates Jud it's easy to forget that English is the parent language. It seems the term mudguard was first applied to the bicycle and it developed from there in most of the English speaking world. Cheers
Peter TD 5801
P Hehir

But of course - "mudflaps," not "mudguards." I guess we're sort of drifting away from welting. My neighbor Peter has taken the mudguards off and is stripping them down for a repaint (we think the original color was Autumn Red so we're trying to match that) and will be (we hope) reusing the original welting. I do a fair amount of woodwork and have discovered that double sided tape is my friend for all kinds of applications. Jud
J. K. Chapin

I'm not that far off fitting the rear guards and wondered where and how the ends of the piping was finished? Anyone have a pic or two? This is a pic of me sewing the piping. I originally had it sewn over a length of poly rope however it wasn't an appropriate material, nor was it the correct diameter. I simply unpicked it and then stitched the thread through every adjacent hole. Once completed I then repeated the process from the other side. Sheltered workshop stuff. Cheers
Peter TD 5801

P Hehir

As a rule of thumb if you cannot see the end, from the end, it was just cut off straight.

For visible ends I have seen two techniques, both needing about 3/4" of extra material past the cord:

* One is to fold the ends inside the piping with one side covering the core.

* The other is to fold the entire piping end into the inside and just under the corded part.

You can choose whichever method you like best and mix and match if desired.
Christopher Couper

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