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MG TD TF 1500 - windscreen fittings

Does anyone have a source for the brass locknuts and "D" washers for the "TF" windscreen frame? Also, there was no rubber seal around my glass, just one made of fabric. Is this correct?
JK Barter

The washers and nuts are sold by every T Series supplier but you can easily make some up from stainless steel. The glass should be fixed in a rubber seal but it is a terrible job to fit one. It is FAR easier to set the glass in black silicone sealant. Grease the glass and frame first and use plenty of masking tape. A messy job but an easy one.


Jan T
J Targosz

Are the washers and locknuts supplied by Moss and the other suppliers made of brass? I thought I would use brass as originally supplied if they are available. I am missing them from one side.
JK Barter

My new D washers are chrome plated or polished stainless, their not bare brass as original. PJ
Paul161

I had a 53 TD that had the fabric/rubber setting tape for the glass, that's the way they were done by MG. Just had new glass set for our 55 TF and my glass guy used the Moss setting tape. I also used the Moss screw set. Check the inside corners that tie the corners together, if badly rusted you may want new ones. By the way my glass guy did the job twice. Small crack in one lower corner near the point.
F. Driver

Re the black silicone.... Mask everything with blue tape to within an inch of its life and wear crummy clothes. It will get everywhere.
MAndrus

Agree with using the purpose designed black windscreen polyurethane (poly is better than silicone). I tried the rubber & got nowhere & can understand why FD's glazier broke the glass. I then tried to pack & mask the glass using the poly however the soapy water used to work the bead lifted the tape & I still got crap everywhere. The other problem was that the packing I used to centre the glass was visible which didn't impress me at all. In the third & successful attempt I first sprayed the edge & the face of the glass near the edge with satin black (see pic), eliminated the internal packing & just used a couple of removable packers where necessary to account for some earlier damage (twisting) to the frame. I got rid of the tape as I found it really easy to clean up the excess with a steel backed blade on the glass & it simply rubs off the chrome. Once dry I removed the couple of packers & infilled that area. The bead can be run using soapy water & an applicator made from a plastic ice cream container. I set mine at a slight angle rather than vertical to the glass. Cutting the end of the nozzle to produce a pleasing bead width also helped. I've yet to see a better installation including those done professionally. Cheers
Peter TD 5801

P Hehir

I used the Moss rubber in mine and all came out well. Used spray silicone for the lube. Took a couple hrs. PJ
Paul161

I used the rubber trim on mine as well and had no issues at all. I packed the frame first with foam rubber to ensure that the glass would sit centrally and not end up sitting on the screws or any other hard projections into the frame that might crack it. Much cleaner than messy silicone. Getting the rubber trim to remain perfectly even all the way around the edge is a desirable, but as you are going to trim away the excess it doesn't really matter. The mitred corners might leak slightly, though I don't know what harm it would do, though you could always squirt a bit of silicone sealant into them afterwards if concerned about it.
Dave H
Dave Hill

I purchased the "Packing" rubber from Moss and also form Abingdon.

My daughters EX used to do car windows. He dug up a piece of "proper" inch size glass, not metric, and found that the Moss tape was just right for the inch size glass.
the Abingdon tape seems to have a fabric cover and is a bit thicker than the Moss. its too thick for setting inch inch size glass but it could be good for metric size glass.

I finished up what the EX started, since he ran out of Moss rubber, I would recommend getting two rolls, and it was easy and I had no problems.

the reason you need two, is that periodically the window is spaced out from the frame by a piece of rubber folded into 6 layers.
When I set up the spacing I used just enough that the ex could not cover one side.

The attached composite shows, in the left frame, the Abingdon tape and the inner packing, just poking out of the frame with the outer packing removed. Left frame is a section of 6 fold packing used to space the frame.

Jim B.

Jim B in NJ

Thanks, folks for all the helpful suggestions. I guess I will have to go with the chrome plated Moss hardware.
JB
JK Barter

You might see if Abingdon is selling the correct hardware JB.
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