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MG TD TF 1500 - XPAG pronounciation

Hi,
As a french resident, I often read and write the technical terms related to our topics, But I seldom talk about that with british or american people.
So I'm wondering what is the common pronounciation of our favourite engine ?
X, P, A, G or
X, PAG or anyother ?

Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
LC Laurent31

Laurent, I usually pronounce it MONEY PIT (fosse d'argent en français). :-) Seriously, everyone I know here in the US pronounces it EX PAG (pag like bag).

Tim
Timothy Burchfield

In Florida, just by the individual letters X P A G. George
George Butz III

I pronounce it both ways, either by individual letters, or as X-PAG.
Steve Simmons

I've heard both ways of pronouncing it here too.
Dave H
Dave Hill

I'm with G.E.O.R.G.E.

:D
Kevin McLemore

I'm with G.E.O.R.G.E and K.E.V.I.N. B.U.D
Bud Krueger

WEll, I use X P A G, but then I also say MOWOG
Bruce Cunha

I definitely pronounce MOWOG as a word. Spelling it out just sounds ridiculous. I think it's obvious they arranged it that way so you could say it instead of spelling it!
Steve Simmons

Hi Laurent
Mowog as a word here for MOWOG
but never heard of X.P.A.G being spelt out
It's always-
Ex -Pag
or Ex- Peg for the 1500
William Revit

I've never had the need to spell out XPAG (or NASA). Anyone I'm talking to about the engine or MGs usually knows what XPAG is. And if they don't spelling it out makes it seem like a word and could lead to further confusion. Besides XPAG like MOWOG is shorthand for a lengthy description? "...the designation XPAG can be read as Morris 'X' Series engine,
(known as the short-stroke Morris Ten engine) the P standing for push-rod unit,
the A being the bore of . . . and that 'G' indicating the engine is destined for
an M.G."
Neil Carns

Tim

(yes this is an "I'm bored and just killing time" post).


Timothy Burchfield

Just did a bunch of memory searching. I've been seriously into Tcars since buying Lazarus in 1988. I'm certain that, in these 30 years, I have never heard a knowledgeable person speak of the engine as an ex-pag. It's always just been the letters XPAG, or XPEG. Bud
Bud Krueger

Bud, I guess I’m one of those people who “not in the Know”. I agree with Tim on this one. People “not in the know” know what an ex -pag/peg” is without the need to spell it out letter by letter. They also don’t need to have it spelled out to them to know what is meant by its usage as an acronym, in general terms.

Bill Chasser
TD-4834
W A Chasser

Bud,

That's the difference between us and our UK and down under cousins, like harbor and harbour. ;-)

Fortunately we all know what we are referring to.

Jim
James Neel

Bud, do you also pronounce “Tcars” the same way one pronounces Tzars?

Asking for a friend, of course.

:D
Kevin McLemore

Ah, life was so simple once....

In Australia for 14-15 years the GM Holden came with the same engine. It was known as the grey motor, because it was ...... gray.

No, we did not spell it out, we just mumbled, gray!

(The Grey six (so named because the entire long motor was finished in a "grey" paint) was born with its success to be seen as a measure of GM-H's new car.)
P G Gilvarry

James agreed. However, having a boot on your car means entirely different things in the US and the UK. By the way that is boot not B O O T. :-)

Tim
Timothy Burchfield

Never knew XPAG or XPEG to be anything else other than what you see, individual letters. I'm sure the cell phone texters could figure some way to change them to something else LOL!! PJ
PJ Jennings

Tim,

Ah yes, and don't forget about the B O N N E T.

Jim
James Neel

Just FYI.

Tim

Timothy Burchfield

Some of those don't look right to these British eyes. Nobody refers to an accumulator, its a battery in a car and always was. Cubby box? No, its a glove box. Mole wrench- never! Mole grips surely. Sill or Cill are correct. Shooting brake? Not wrong, but more likely Estate car or just Estate. Vacuum advance!
Dave H
Dave Hill

Crocodile clips and Alligator clips both exist in American English.
They are different!
The Crocodile clip is blunt with the teeth running at right angles to the clip. Think Battery Jumper cable ends.
The Alligator clip has the teeth running parallel to the clip and looks....well like an Alligator..

Jim B.
JA Benjamin

PG
Life was simple with the old Grey Holden engines
When they went to the new 'red' engine though they stuffed it up and kept changing the colour red,blue,black
The old grey engine is sometimes called a sideplater as it has a full length tin plate along the side of the engine

Bit amusing to overseas visitors at an historic race meeting--Someone will ask-what sort of engine is in that and the answer will be---a sideplate---? or a grey Holden--
They think they're getting the mickey taken out of them, but a sideplate it is
William Revit

Dave, somebody in the UK calls them accumulators.

Tim

https://www.statista.com/statistics/532159/uk-import-value-of-lead-acid-electric-accumulators/
Timothy Burchfield

There's always somebody! Its the correct technical term, but everybody (bar a very few) says "battery".
Dave Ha
Dave Hill

to be pedantic, battery just means a collection of similar things. So a US battery is a collection of accumulator cells.
The last time I heard a battery called an accumulator was in the late 40's when I had to take the valve radio HV accumulator to the local garage to be charged.
How things have changed!
PS I have said X pag for the last 45 years
Ray TF 2884
Ray Lee

It should be noted that "statista.com" is a US website, as US dollars are mentioned, implying that "accumulator" is an American expression.
I agree with Ray about the exact meaning of battery. Also, in the UK I was taught in Physics lessons that an accumulator was one lead/acid cell, but more than one was a battery.
Out of curiosity, I did check with Wikipedia, but I think it is in error. It suggests that an accumulator, in electrical engineering, is now known as a capacitor. However, the only other word I know for a capacitor is a condenser.
R WILSON

Yes, Ray is correct. We all call them car batteries.
Dave H
Dave Hill

It has been said before.

"Two Nations divided by a common language"

Ray
Ray Lee

Except some things are more strange in the UK than in the US. Seems everybody in the UK has an Uncle named Bob.

Tim
Timothy Burchfield

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