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Triumph TR6 - Gunsen tools

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I recently purchased the GUNSEN Clikadjust and the Colourtune products. I have a question and comment here. First does anyone know the thread pitch of the tappet adjusting screw??? I have heard from Don K that the # of "cliks" for a TR6 engine is 2. This sounds low and Don thought so also. Secondly, I also wanted to purchase the GUNSEN Carbalancer. I took one look at it and said no thanks to Jeff Z. It is plastic and the vacuumn vile is connected via a small plastic hose so 3 hands are needed to adjust a carb. Also the face that is held against the throat of the carb has no "sealing" gasket on it so I can imagine air leakage. I bought instead the MOSS #386-200 Carb synchronizer...a much superior tool!!!! If ordering from a supplier, make sure u specify the MOSS ballancer not the GUNSEN one. A comment to KBD Dixon (thread: mixture adjustment) I have no idea why someone would buy directly from Galeta CA (unless u live in LA)when a supporter/advertiser of/on this BBS sells for less. KBD, I paid 5 cents more than u. For 5 cents, I will support a LBC supplier. KBD, went to that link and could not find any 2 page manual...did at Jeffs though.
Rick C
Rick Crawford

KBD D
Sorry read further into the "mixture adjust" thread and saw u where the one that said 2 cliks. Like I said that sounds low. Do u know the pitch of the screw?
Rick C
Rick Crawford

Rick C,
1st-I bought my clik-adjust thru Moss@$59.95, while it was on back-order I found it available thru LBC and the previously mentioned supplier. I needless to say felt as though the moss had been pulled over my eyes.
2nd-The instruction sheet I refer to in the previous thread was taken from there site at the reference shown as an after-thought it is exactly the info shown on the clikadjust packaging just larger print for those of us who are visually impaired.
3rd-The # of clicks honestly when I was last adjusting my valves and the 1st trip through with the clik I was still using a feeler guage after each adjustment because of the small amount of gap and my lack of experience with this tool and valve adjust in general I always find slow and cautious saves me repeat performances.(experience is a great teacher). It is a great tool to use when putting everything at one hand disposal
I will be using it again soon and will try to get more feedback on the clik issue hopefully others will do the same. I think that the # of clicks may vary from car to car but time will tell.
4th-Not the slightest on the pitch of the thread it's all nuts and bolts to me still.
5th-When buying things related to our passion always check around, I saw the tool in the catalog and thought neat next time I will think differently, and check other sources.
Regards, Keith
47 degrees and raining here, just returned from Florida 90's every day almost too hot for LBC's there I would think, I did see one MG-TF being used as semi daily transport though.
KBD Dixon

Keith
I hear ya on the small print thing. I needed a magnifying glass to read it. FYI at LBC there is a blurb on the tool. Go to his specials then to Gunsen and just below the clikadjust is a link to more info.
Your number 3 point well spoken and I agree. I am not sure if the #of cliks should change between 6 to 6. Only if one has very worn rockers. Mine have a few that I should of had ground when redoing the head but inexperience did not tell me to do it. This will be taken care off with the tool as a feeler guage will not compensate for wear. I need to first retorque my head (the one on the 6) then do the valves. I will probably pull out an adjuster and find out is pitch if no one answers the question. I agree on the checking around...we up here closer to the arctic circle do not have as much choice as you southern folk. Jeff does have good prices. I hate it when someone pulls the moss over my eys:)
Regards
Rick
P.S. starting to get warmer.
Rick Crawford

Keith
The adjusting screw is a 5/16-24 (fine thread). regardless of either method used to determine the # of clicks it is either 7.2 or 7.27 clicks or simply 7 clicks. 7 clicks actually gives an adjustment (gap) of 9.628 thou....we are suppose to be 10 thou. If you go to 8 click the adjustment will be 11.001 thou. One is under one is over. It is better to have more of a gap than less. So bottom line is 8 cliks. Consider also that as the pushrod and valve stem warm up they will expand and that extra 1 thou will be less. 9 cliks is 12.4 thou gap....to much. Keith I deffinitely agree, you want a 1/2" drive 1/2" 6 point socket.
Will be doing this soon.
Regards
Rick
Rick Crawford

Keith
Performed the operation on Sat. and went for a nice long ride....unfortunately the temp was around 5*C and by the end of the run my fingers where a tad cold. Still have not attached the new top to the front bow (waiting for hot weather) so she was a top down run. Don K you asked the question "but does it work". Simply ...yes. Talk about easy. Did them all in about 45 minutes. Next time faster. Used a feeler gauge to double check and all OK. The adjustment was 8 cliks. The other neat thing about the clikadjust is the fact that it eliminates all error if tappets have any wear at all. As help to all, below is the order of adjustment. NOTES: The clikadjust can be fooled if your adjuster lock nut and the adjuster mating threads are not clean. I had one pair that I needed to clean up a bit. Don E; you are going to like this one. I attached 2 cloth pegs to the adjuster nut (with a popsicle stick glued on to the peg) on to the 2 valve pair open (tappet fully down). The popsicle sticks simple made it easier to see the MAX. movement/deflection UP of the peg as the push rod comes up on the cam. The order is as follows as only about 1/4 turn of the fan blade is necessary between pairs.
Valve pair to adjust when valve pair open
1/3 12/10
8/11 5/2
4/6 9/7
10/12 3/1
2/5 11/8
7/9 6/4

Hope this helps all and I recommend the tool.
Regards
Rick
Rick Crawford

OOPS
I thought the space bar would seperate the pairs of numbers
Valve pair to adjust... when... valve pair open
1/3 ................................12/10
8/11 ................................5/2
4/6 .................................9/7
10/12 ...............................3/1
2/5 ................................11/8
7/9 .................................6/4
Rick Crawford

Nice one Rick! I like the popsicle trick.

I can't remember that table, so I use the Rule of Thirteen. Subtract the valve number from thirteen, thus:
Valves open: 12 & 10
Valves to adjust: 1(13 minus 12) and 3(13 minus 10)

But on a bad brain day when even arithmetic is too much, imagine that there is a mirror across the middle of the block, so that valve No.1 is a reflection of No.12, and so on. Adjust the valve that is the mirror image of the one that is up.
John
JohnD

This thread was discussed between 11/05/2002 and 21/05/2002

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