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Triumph TR6 - seat track removal

This may turn out to be a real "doh" moment but.... I have removed the passenger seat track with no problem and removed the back bolts of the driver track. I can not access the bolts holding the front of the track on so I "rubber malleted" the top rail forward but can not seem to get it completely off. The bottom rails have minor surface rust but I can't imagine that holding it from sliding forward. Any help is greatly appreciated!
Bill

Hi Bill

Will be at shop tomorrow can look at mine. There out of the car. Actually everythings out of the car..:) Can't remember offhand?

If you don't figure out or someone else doesn't post I will check it.

Bill
Bill Brayford

Thanks Bill,
I'm done for the night but I've held off to make sure I wasn't going to do somthing stupid if I applied the old "Arm & Hammer" and forced it off. By the way this is an incredible site! (I am registered, just switched laptops and didn't sign in)
Bill/Indy (1st car 66 Spit in 72)
Bill Kinney

Bill/Indy
Since you have the passenger side out you know that the 4 bolts are at all 4 corners. No need for old "Arm & Hammer"

"I can not access the bolts holding the front of the track on so I "rubber malleted" the top rail forward but can not seem to get it completely off."

Bill you actually want to move the top rail (seat bracket) to the back not forward.
The inside (of car) "slider lock" is spring operated from the lever at the front of the seat. The outside is actually the lever itself. Is the spring there and actually "pulling" the inside slider lock out of the tracks positioning hole(s). If not you will not be able to slide the seat bracket backwards so as to access front bolts. I presume you have removed the seat.
You say you have ""rubber malleted" the top rail forward" So it looks like the L&R locks are operating. Simply reverse the direction of your rubber mallet:) Please take no offence here Bill/Indy, I presume you pull the leaver towards outside of car when trying with hammer to move the slider.
Rick C
Rick Crawford

Rick, no offense taken and I did pull the lever while trying to push the slide forward. Thanks for the info on reversing the direction, I had a feeling I needed to because they did not want to slide off. At least I have plenty of track to put some oil on so they will slide off easier. Thanks!
Bill

Ha Bill
Glad no offense taken. Sometimes forest is to big to see the trees:)
You say"plenty of track to put some oil on so they will slide off easier."
I do not think the seat bolt on piece (seat bracket) will slide off of the track. Maybe slides off the back end with the 2 bars removed but do not think there is depth to back "shelf" to do this. It is removed as an entire assembly with removal of all for corner bolts. I would think you want to remove totally so as to clean & grease the slides (they are metal to metal). Then a nice paint job to make them look "perty". A little anti-seize on the 4 bolts for the reinstall will not do any harm.
Bill B; sorry for jumping in and giving Bill an answer. If I know anything about TR6 owners doing a "task"...tomorrow is way to long a wait:) If you have had a look at yours...will the seat bracket totally slide off (towards back of track) with the back bars removed?? "Can't remember offhand?"....:)
Rick C
Rick Crawford

Guys, thanks again for your help. I was able to slide it back an get to the front bolts. As usual...first one came off beautifully second was the "bolt from hell" Took me abot 1/2 hour and vise grips @1:30 A.M. After completely cussing it out (softly) I said I would try it one more time. From cussing to jubilation...it moved. Glad this littl saga is over!
Bill

Bill,

I've tried both soft and loud cussing to loosen stuff, but I've found a low mutter to work the best!

Don from Jersey
D Hasara

I concur with Don regarding the application method. I have been trying (unscientifically of course) to determine the relative efficacy of various curses in conjunction with the application method.

I have been somewhat surprised to see no clear winner between accusing the offending object of having an Oedipus complex, having a dog as a mother, being a bit of solid waste matter or possessing a bar sinister on its heraldry. This has included times when the use of varying modifiers in the form of adjectives, verbs, nouns, adverbs and pronouns to supplement the basic curse were employed. Again, there seems to be no clear winner. However, I have found that the muttered/mumbled curse application technique does seem to hold some significant advantage over the outburst technique or the clear, yet softly stated oath technique. The outburst method holds an advantage over the soft, yet clearly stated method when exertion is required, while the soft, clear method holds an advantage over the ouburst when the work is delicate in nature. But, a clear advantage overall is held by the muttered/mumbled method.

It would appear that I had the original premise reversed compared the the actual results. The curse employed is not the critical factor, it merely serves as an object to the much more critical application technique employed.
SteveP

My opinion the whole thing seat and all is more trouble than worth. I have rebuilt my seats with new rubber bottoms, covers and slides and still really not work well. I bought a set of Miata seats and could not be happier.
Dick Porter

SteveP-

My anecdotal evidence matches yours. The mantra matters less than the method of application. One other advantage of the muttered/mumbled method is that the curse usually will not serve as further evidence in the sanity hearing advocated when I first purchased my wonderful LBC.

Charlie
EC Smith

I gave up and went to "Thrust" to loosen recalictrant fasteners.

Jim
Jim Deatsch

The low mutter approach will not work when you skin your knuckles. That modifier induces the loud outburst we try to prevent. When this occurs, I generally have a good set with a wobbly-pop until it settles down to a loud cuss. At this point my neighbor walks by and sees me cussing softly to myself and asks, "How's it goin'?"

It's like turning up the heat under the pot while checking the thermostat. The water boils and the loud outburst returns. With flushed face and bloody knuckles I respond, "Great! Want a cold ha-ha?"

Don from Jersey
D Hasara

This thread was discussed between 04/09/2004 and 08/09/2004

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